FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > 32 missed tackles
33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Joe needs to be dropped. A spell at Swinton should sort him out.

RankPostsTeam
International Star791No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: exiled Warrior "Absolutly it is - I wouldn't be surprised if the backs there train in various positions -but and it is a huge but I cannot recall any Wigan player making a success of switching from wing to centre for a very, very long time (Dean Bell the last?). Burgess looked lost at centre when he played there recently and the suggestions of moving someone like Davies there just baffle me - especially whilst we have other options (we have centres out on loan) especially in important games.

I accept that Gelling is not playing well but moving wingers into the centre is unlikely to provide a solution.'"


Not saying he was world class but I'd call Darrel Goulding's switch a success. Although arguably he was a centre playing on the wing who then switched back to centre. But he definitely played well on the wing in 2010 and then in the centres after that.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15440
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



How are people talking about Davies at centre? I don't think I've ever seen him pass the ball! He is one of very few players who is doing an outstanding job where he is playing. Let's change things that aren't working, not things that are working.

For me the key reason we lost was that we couldn't make the hard yards getting out of our own half whereas they could easily. I think with better field position, we would have scored more tries, and them less. Wane acknowledges this in his post match interview. The three quarters all made big metres apart from Burgess. Some very unimpressive stats from our forwards bar Bateman and Lockers. Whether you blame the forwards for not getting through enough work, or Wane for having a game plan that doesn't utlise them enough, is another matter. I'd drop/rest Burgess for Marshall this week and give a general kick up the backside to the forwards.

RankPostsTeam
International Star791No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



What's happened to Bretherton? Is he injured?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1588
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15483.jpg
:15483.jpg



Quote: RichieS "Given the type of player and attitude Tom Davies has, I have no doubt at all, should he be sat down and the idea of a long-term switch to centre be touted, he would be well up for it. A lot of the attributes we praise him for highly on this forum are all transferable to centre. He returns the ball well, he is strong, he rarely misses a tackle, he has energy in abundance and knows where the try line is. All that is really missing is the positioning and offloads/passes to his winger and with enough work, that would come no problem. You dismissing it simply because it hasn't been done in a long time is just as baffling as not giving it a go at least.'"



I do not dismiss because it has not been done for a long time but because

a) recent attempts at playing wingers in the centre has not worked - centre is a very specialised position especially when defending (and in passing skills) arguably Burgess has previously shown more of those abilities than Davies and he struggled in the centre. Long term maybe Davies (or someone else) could make the switch but it would take time and probably a stint in the U19, or on loan playing there - certainly not in super 8 or cup final games against top opposition where they would be in danger of being walked all over (possibly try it in pre-season) I have nothing against the idea longer term but for now it would be too risky.

b) I think centre is one position where the english game has struggled in general over the last few years, there are not many top class centres around the game currently - we always seem to struggle in Internationals (esp v Aus) in the backs. I wish I knew why (probably a lot of reasons) it is hard to think of a really top class international centre this country has produced for a long time - yet our forwards seem to stand up well enough.

c) Wigan do have other options Liam Forsyth, Jack Higginson for example (and maybe others in the U19s) what we should be doing is bringing one or more of them on - Forsyth showed some good touches when he was playing, although he did make some mistakes but I would like to see how he would go in a full strength team with better players around him than when he was playing. Higginson has only had limited chances (injuries not helping) but both are centres by training/upbringing so surely must be worth trying and persisting with rather than move someone who is playing really well where he is and is probably helping the team more than quite a few others.


I note someone referred to Darrel Goulding - he was always a centre in the academy/reserves - he just got his first chance on the wing .

On here among quite a few poster there seems to be a common call for players to be moved around into unfamiliar positions after any defeat - not just yourself, even I have called for someone else to be moved to 7 but that would be someone who has played there for most of his career (Powell) so would know the role - I think there may need to be some hard choices made at the end of this season as some players have not really stood up well and the right centre position is one of those areas where we have struggled - thank goodness the other centre position looks settled for some time to come.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach36
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:




33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.00634765625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19m
WHO IS NEXT
Once were Lo
151
39m
This site is crap
ALAW
4
39m
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
90
51m
TV Games - Not Hull
bonaire
2062
Recent
Batley Bulldogs H
Willzay
17
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37904
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60091
Recent
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
234
Recent
Planning for next season
LeythIg
13
Recent
Salford - Away
The games af
22
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1652
1m
Olly Russell 4 year deal
newgroundb4w
39
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
37904
2m
Leeds
the-bearded-
37
3m
IMG scores
FIL
32
3m
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
234
3m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
2362
4m
2025 Recruitment
herr rigsby
30
4m
Toulouse A
Bull Mania
24
4m
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Accountability
Gazzagiant2
1
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
ALAW
4
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Once were Lo
90
TODAY
Leeds
the-bearded-
37
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
Willzay
17
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
177
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
331
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1440
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1113
Big Win for England Women Over..
860
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1113
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1209
Super League form rewarded as ..
1528
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1522
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1523
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1319
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1530
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1871
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1794
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1963