No NRL team would touch him unless he gets back to how he was playing at the beginning of this year.

I think the comments regarding TL are harsh tbh. Yes, he has been below par and not upto the required standard, but let's not forgot he's broke his jaw this year and the team has been ravaged by injuries. As someone else has mentioned, at the beginning of this year we looked slick and free-flowing much of this was down to TL's passing game and his ability to stand up the defensive line. This was also without S.Tomkins at FB who is a much better player than Escare despite Morgan performing so well earlier this year.

The chance of retaining the SL may have slipped already but I think we need to give the players a few weeks of performing together in a lineup that looks somewhat like our first team before righting off a player like TL with bags of caps for NZ.

The broken jaw issue is a very fair point when it comes to him looking tentative taking on the line and the fact that he's struggling to commit defenders and make space but it can't excuse his kicking game, which at the moment is harming us more then the opposition.

Our poor run isn't all down to Leuluai by any stretch and he'll benefit more then anyone as the team improves but it's impossible to ignore that he's struggled on his return. There was some talk early in the year that he was leading the side around well and whilst he was slightly better then his current level, it's never been vintage and I hoped he would really improve as we got players back. He's obviously still got plenty of improvement in him as he gets to grips with playing alongside Bateman and hopefully Gelling but I'm struggling to convince myself that his kicking game will ever get to the level we need.

I sincerely doubt that.

I think George has been badly exposed this season. He's looked energetic, but under the pressure of having fewer top-line players around him has been more a headless chicken than an incisive halfback.

I'd be surprised if any SL club would cough up some of the figures being discussed at the start of this year, let alone the Aussies.

Which NRL half is he going to replace?

I think there's little doubt that George is far from the finished article,perhaps Sky if they can stop trying to hype him at every turn could tone things down that would a start,he is very much a work in progress but if he does break through then my he will be something special,but that does on the basis of the last couple of months does seem a ways off just yet

Well, quite, I've said that for a while. But don't get me wrong; I'm glad we've got him, and he can still improve a lot yet.

Well NRL clubs have been interested in him since the end of last year and his stock grew massively in Aus after the WCC when Andrew Johns (I think it was?) bigged him up.

None of these clubs will care that he's on a poor run of form. He's got natural ability, can win a game on his own and at 22 already has a better attitude than most experienced halves around.

Name me a 22 year old half that can still look his best with a load of rookie backs, no strike back rowers playing outside him and a pack that loses the ruck every game? And despite that he's miles clear on try assists in SL and is the only back in the top 8 players for offloads.



Ask me again in 2 years.

Currently off the top of my head - Blake Green, Nikorima, Townsend, Foran, Sezer, both Knights halves, Sutton

It's all about having the right partner for Williams. Get him an organiser with a long kicking game and he'll kill it in any league you put him in.

He's easily good enough for the NRL. You don't rack up the amount of try assist he has without having something about you. His form isn't great currently but even the best have the odd dip.

I'm glad he's here too. But I think he's got a lot further to go than I thought he had at the start of this year.

Indeed. I said at the beginning of the season that TL's kicking wasn't up to the standard that was required and the answer on here was that we wouldn't need Matty Smith's kicking and game management because Tommy was such a better all round player. Well, how's that looking now?

Tommy's kicking is easily that worst of any half back in Super League, and while the jaw injury provides an excuse for his poor form overall, his kicking is costing us.

I've kept quiet for a while because it was obvious that the injuries have killed us this season and it seemed pointless carrying on with my argument. But these last few weeks we might have expected some improvement.

Aside from the Warrington cup game, when lets face it we were as lucky as hell, we just haven't won many close games this year that we were winning regularly last year. It galls me to see us struggle against teams like Huddersfield with the talent we had on.

I'm afraid that it is as plain as day that we need a scrum half who can kick and who can organise if we are to win anything else this season, and especially so if we want to get the best out of George Williams.

Sam T and P need to take all of TL's kicking duties off him, it really has bebe very poor all season.

What has the Man Utd legend got to do with it?