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Quote: Pie Eyed "Even funnier for me was the kid on the news (couldn't have been more than about 20), calling for them to "get Paul Wellens in".

Hell yeas - Get him in right now.

What could poossibly go wrong?'"


That's what fans of all Clubs do though isn't it - promote their personal favourites. How long ago was it that some of your lot were shouting 'Edwards in' or 'Hanley in' despite the respective flaws in the arguments for each of those - it's just the same. I also think there's an air of desperation amongst Saints fans after what's been dished up for the past 2 seasons.

Saints' biggest weakness is the Chairman's ability to make good decisions in this area as ,barring Anderson and Brown, his selections of Potter, Simmons and Cunningham have been terrible.

Someone earlier on this thread made a great point about the appointment of Cunningham being an attempt to emulate the way Wigan are set up and it hasn't worked. I can't disagree, and it was a very very poor attempt.

Will be interesting to see which way he goes next. I have a hunch what it will be but he's under pressure to deliver or he'll be the next pariah.

Friday will be interesting.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He's a good coach for my money. He's had a Daryl Powell type rise in that he got a chance at a young age to coach a club he'd played for and whilst it didn't quite work, he's still been able to go on cut a good career and dragged more out of a club then you'd expect.

He's not quite got Widnes hitting the heights of Cas but you sense he's on a more limited budget and I think he'd be a realistic option for Saints.

Whatever Saints decide the one thing I think the fans are desperate for issome attractive Rugby League. You've had a line of coaches that haven't played up to the tradition of Saints sides throwing the ball about and they need to get that back.'"


I agree and what I like about him is that he can probably be described as having over achieved over a sustained period of time. The hesitation I have is not with him but with our organisation. At Widnes Steve O'Connor is pretty hands off, as Lenagan and Radlinski appear to be at Wigan, thus leaving the coach to do what he is paid to do.

McManus and Rush are the opposite. Would that work for Betts? I am not so sure.

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Betts has done a very understated job at Widnes with having seemingly only a fiver to spend in all of his time there,one i think Widnes fans will only realise how good he is once he's gone.

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Quote: hengirl "Betts has done a very understated job at Widnes with having seemingly only a fiver to spend in all of his time there,one i think Widnes fans will only realise how good he is once he's gone.'"


I thoght at the time, and still do, that Betts was hard done to by us. Considering the injury list we had during his brief spell, his win/loss ratio was pretty good. Especially when you consider what happened under his successor! It was a pity, perhaps, that he was thrown in a little before he was ready because of Mike Gregory's illness, but he was following a similar development path to Shaun Wane back then, starting with the junior sides and working his way up.

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Betts got chucked in the deep end and was far too inexperienced at the time. I think at whatever time Wane moves upstairs he would be a very good next coach for us.

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Quote: Allez "That's what fans of all Clubs do though isn't it - promote their personal favourites. How long ago was it that some of your lot were shouting 'Edwards in' or 'Hanley in' despite the respective flaws in the arguments for each of those - it's just the same. I also think there's an air of desperation amongst Saints fans after what's been dished up for the past 2 seasons.'"


I can't recall Hanley being mentioned for literally years as a potential Wigan coach. Edwards yes but that is because he's a coach at the top level albeit in RU. Could he return to league and do the job is a valid question. Personally I don't think he himself would assume he could do it without being an assistant for at least a couple of seasons.

As to Betts for Saints that would be a bad move for him. He's done well at Widnes but I think he'd be better off taking a step back and going to a side as an assistant where the demand for improvement is not immediate such as Wigan with a view to taking over as head coach eventually. A spell in Oz would not do him any harm either. Saints need someone like Noble to calm things down short term (and then not making the mistake of keeping him on two years too long...).

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