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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
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| I think he's appreciated about right. People are talking about him like he's the messiah now because we have just won the Super League and World Club Challenge. There was talk of whether he was up to it when we got knocked out of the Cup by Castleford then Hull KR, and went 2012, 2014 and 2015 without a major trophy. The reality is probably somewhere in between.
Maguire is still our best coach of the SL era IMO because he didn't have the foundations in place like Wane had. We won a major trophy in both of his seasons, won a ridiculous number of games in a row in 2011 and pretty much never took a real beating as Wane's teams occasionally have.
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| Quote: Smooth Stu "Remembering the dark (but occasionally fun) days of 2006, the transformation from 2010 onwards was amazing, and we continue to build on that.
Madge brought in three Melbourne players. No other coach was able to bring in that amount of quality, in one go, from a top club in the NRL, who had all worked together for a while with the winning, professional mentality and culture that Madge is credited for.
Wane 'brings in' Marshall, Ganson and Wells.
I don't expect to win a trophy every year
in his first year he brought in Deacon
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| Love him or hate him. He wears his heart on his sleeve.and is Wigan through and through his handling of senior players and young uns is superb
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| I've been a huge Wane basher - at times calling for his head last season but time and time again he proved the doubters, of which there was many, wrong. That Wigan team last year should of been nowhere near the Grand Final, let alone win it! You could argue luck was on our side with the state of other teams (Leeds/Huddersfield/Saints) but that shouldn't detract from what was a phenomenal achievement against an excellent Warrington side.
When George Williams was promoted to 6 after the departure of Blake Green he was heavily criticized. Since then George has arguably been one of the best HB's in the league, if not the best. That's not a shot in the dark gamble. That's knowledge, experience and a good rugby brain making those decisions.
Does he get it right all the time? Not at all, no coach in the world does or will. Either way he's taken the mantle from Madge, a coach who is adored in Wigan for what he did. That's no easy task in itself.
Will Wane go down as the greatest? He's in with a shout certainly if he carries on defying the odds and the ney sayers and unearthing the players he has.
Criticized often, praised little. Yet he manages to make Wigan achieve. If he carries it on, I'll have no qualms whatsoever in putting him up there.
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icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
Big Steve wrote:
The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "I've been a huge Wane basher - at times calling for his head last season but time and time again he proved the doubters, of which there was many, wrong. That Wigan team last year should of been nowhere near the Grand Final, let alone win it! You could argue luck was on our side with the state of other teams (Leeds/Huddersfield/Saints) but that shouldn't detract from what was a phenomenal achievement against an excellent Warrington side.
When George Williams was promoted to 6 after the departure of Blake Green he was heavily criticized. Since then George has arguably been one of the best HB's in the league, if not the best. That's not a shot in the dark gamble. That's knowledge, experience and a good rugby brain making those decisions.
Does he get it right all the time? Not at all, no coach in the world does or will. Either way he's taken the mantle from Madge, a coach who is adored in Wigan for what he did. That's no easy task in itself.
Will Wane go down as the greatest? He's in with a shout certainly if he carries on defying the odds and the ney sayers and unearthing the players he has.
Criticized often, praised little. Yet he manages to make Wigan achieve. If he carries it on, I'll have no qualms whatsoever in putting him up there.'"
This is because those who did see the good that he did, and tried to offer a balanced view, were shouted down by people who thought their own opinions were fact.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "I think the difference is that Wane has simply instilled an unbelievable belief into a squad of very young players. Whether that's through sports pychologists or just his personal relationship with the players we won't really know. The amount of times we've won in the last 10 minutes or come back from 2, 3 or 4 tries down is unheard of before now.
Maguire got a very talented team to perform at the level they should have been performing at with some slick structures and incredible fitness levels. It was quite revolutionary at the time in SL but other clubs adapted to it as well from Maguire's second season onwards. I think a lot of fans are quite harsh on that 2011 season but we played every single week for 8 months without a break with a lot of the players notching 30+ games and just fell short against actually a decent Saints team. The club clearly made a goal to win the Challenge Cup and we peaked mid-season to do that.
From an outsider it seems like Wane is very much a father figure to the players and they'd do pretty much anything for him, whereas Maguire was a bit of a hard taskmaster with a "win at any cost" attitude.'"
Shaun Wane doesn't have a win at any cost attitude?
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