Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" We're doomed!

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" We're doomed!

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" Some reality at last. Most people who scream raise the cap don't realise that money doesn't just appear out of thin air. You can raise the cap as much as you want. Salaries won't go up if clubs do not receive any extra revenue. Until the game creates more revenue streams salaries will stay the same.

You're the last person who should be throwing insults like that about given this embarrassment:

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To be fair, Solomona's agent has links (i.e. they own companies together) to Ian Lenegan, so he's swinging but not that wide.

FWIW I don't understand this animosity between the clubs.

A company completely unrelated to anything to do with Clarke's agency business. To claim Wigan RL has anything to do with Sale and Solomona is, like I said, embarrassing.

Sale have links to Salford, but I've yet to see Koukash implicated. I wonder why?

You haven't looked far enough then. There's a 100+ page on the Cas forum with many, many theories. It's just people looking for someone to blame.

One way to increase the benefit players can receive without the clubs having to spend money would be to allow external sponsorship, sponsored vehicles, player endorsements, etc but I suppose that upsets the "level playing field" argument that has completely engulfed the original aims of the salary cap.

Spot on.

It's great putting up annual returns, but that's a club 'going it alone'. Even if the club managed to secure 20 businesses at a £20k investment that's £400k in the bank.

Put that into perspective the company I work for pays about £80k a season for corporate football tickets at City, United and Liverpool. Whilst it's great hospitality you don't get access to players etc which I'm sure Wigan could arrange. Cars is another one where the players are getting to feel the love.

It's something that would be available to all clubs, but as with these things some clubs will be better than others at it. Such is life though

I could save them about 100 pages:

- Denny Solomona
- Andy Clarke
- Steve Diamond

Wow. Reading through this as a genuine neutral, and you've turned me. You ARE an absolute halfwit and an embarrassment to your club, and the sport.

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"And how do you propose to pay there players more money, when they are losing money from all angles? How can the game afford to raise the salary cap? Look at these, from two of our "better run" clubs" https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history Just click on the annual returns'" How would the Leeds Rhinos figures stack up Rogues? I was informed that the Rhinos turn over more than both Wigan and Saints do put together