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I was always excited before any Wigan game not that long ago but afraid that emotion has left me and I hope it is just a phase. It's very strange looking round the stands at the DW and seeing so many empty seats but it's not just us either. Wembley looked to have way too many empty seats and I'm not including the Club Wembley ones which are opposite tv cameras. Wire are doing well this year and have a stadium getting on for half the size of the DW but that looks half empty as well for the televised games of theirs that I've seen. Combination of super league being poor in general this year and Sky (whose cash we wouldn't survive without) dictating when we play - first was super league Monday which fortunately didn't last long and then they decided to dump us on to Thursday nights which does seem to have had a huge negative impact. The RFL haven't put much/any thought into Friday night games either as there have been plenty involving teams from either side of the Pennines which are damn near impossible to get to for so many fans who are working etc.
It's the best game in the world and it's being slowly strangled to death by the various factions in charge of it. Just hope they don't leave it too long to fix it.

BTW does anyone know what the figures are over recent years for season ticket holders? I can't find any info on the numbers but would think they are around somewhere

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Let's face it. It's not good enough irrespective of the injuries. FFS Lenaghan do SOMETHING next season to keep us interested.

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Two moments of brilliance from T. Stolen a win, for the love of God, please do something better next week.

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As a neutral, who is finding myself more and more turning live RL games off because the product on the field is now so poor, i have to say that Wigan are the worst, there just doesn't seem to be any excitement in games involving Wigan, and games are usually slow, penalty and error ridden slogs.

As for the atmosphere at your place, it doesn't help when the club insist on blasting extremely loud techno music from the speakers which drown out any attempt anyone has of trying to get an atmosphere going, that's a common thing at most ground these days, but the DW is terrible, it's almost as if they want people to not enjoy themselves.

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The only thing I have enjoyed this season is Wigan's determination to slog out a win when in previous seasons they didn't look bothered. However other than winning the rugby entertainment is low. They and many teams are frustrating to watch. I used to watch every TV game as a neutral exept when i was at a live Wigan game but now i am so bored that i just watch on catch-up and speed through to the trys. Last night I watched Corrie instead of the first part of the second half before rejoining the game on the recording with fast forward.

For me it is the skill level and lack of attacking flair right across SL which is turning me off and I am a life long RL supporter (age 5icon_cool.gif. There have been moments such as Williams try last night which are a delight to watch but general standard's have dropped. I can't believe that Wigan and Saints both have a chance of becoming Champions and I think one of them will.

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It is sheer determination from a few of the players, last night Gelling gave about everything he has, as did Williams, but I can't work out why Wane continues to carry Tierney on the wing, Hampshire on loan is much better all round.

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