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Madge's style of rugby is even more joyless than Wane's. The South players look sick of all the predictable block- plays and poor Joe Burgess has barely received a pass since joining weeks ago. Madge made a great impact first time round at Wigan but it would be a big mistake to go back to him again.

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Madge ain't coming back. They're going to have a clearout of players and he's going to be given chance to start afresh. If Wane was shown the door I think Powell or an ambitious number two at one of the Australian clubs would get the gig. Personally, I'd pull out all the stops to get Craig Bellamy, but not sure how up for it he'd be...

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Quote: Trainman "I don't want MM back. I think we need a change, someone different with new ideas, not a continuation of the previous 7 years although some of those have been very good years.

A few have mentioned Trent Robinson. If he were available I'm sure there would be a long queue for his signature.

My preference would be to look for the next MM, an assistant from the NRL looking to prove himself with Wane moving upstairs.'"


You'd be best trying for someone like Garth Brennan or the Walker brothers. Brennan has done great things with one of Penrith's teams (reserves or u20s), the Walker bros coach Ipswich Jets in the QLD Cup and have an absolutely fascinating coaching philosophy that would be perfectly suited to Super League IMO. How likely either option would be to come here I'm not sure.

Garth Brennan - www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/garth-b ... 595ebe91de

Walker bros - www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 49addffb7c
Quote: Trainman "I don't want MM back. I think we need a change, someone different with new ideas, not a continuation of the previous 7 years although some of those have been very good years.

A few have mentioned Trent Robinson. If he were available I'm sure there would be a long queue for his signature.

My preference would be to look for the next MM, an assistant from the NRL looking to prove himself with Wane moving upstairs.'"


You'd be best trying for someone like Garth Brennan or the Walker brothers. Brennan has done great things with one of Penrith's teams (reserves or u20s), the Walker bros coach Ipswich Jets in the QLD Cup and have an absolutely fascinating coaching philosophy that would be perfectly suited to Super League IMO. How likely either option would be to come here I'm not sure.

Garth Brennan - www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/garth-b ... 595ebe91de

Walker bros - www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 49addffb7c


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Quote: wiganermike "I know we have only had three coaches under his ownership but Ian Lenegan seems more likely to let a coach run down their contract than wield the axe. That isn't a criticism just an observation. He seems to take a more measured approach particularly as we were making semi finals regularly under Noble and regularly make finals under Wane (though our record in those could be better). IIRC Lenegan has also stated that making a final, not necessarily winning it, was what he required to be happy with the performance of the coach. Were we not to make the GF this year then Wane may be shown the exit (or his position may at least be discussed). Lenegan and the board may take our position (top 4 and cup SF) compared to the fall of Huddersfield and Leeds this season into account even should we not make the GF. Were our position swapped with theirs then the axe probably would fall but unless we fail to reach the GF we will have done better than last year despite our well documented problems in attack. That is hardly a reason to sack the coach. Insisting that he use an attacking coach as an assistant from next season to fix our issues would be more likely.

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The fact if we get to the GF and lose it that statistically we will have done better than last year because we got further in the cup cannot be used as something to save Wane's bacon. This would be fine example of the old adage "There are lies, damned lies and statistics". It is obvious to everyone except perhaps Wane we are going backwards despite a cup semi final and a chance of a GF place. What state Leeds and Hudds are in is irrelevant. Anyway on actual league wins I'd be surprised if we were not worse this year than last. The home record is certainly dire in comparison.

We used to regularly get similar stats thrown out defending Noble. "Look we got to a semi final" was the defence ignoring the dour RL and ultimate lack of success. He paid for it eventually but as you said when his contract was run down. It may be history is repeating itself on that score but if it is, IL is playing with fire. People are really fed up with the dross on the pitch and only those with blind loyalty will see a GF place as sufficient to ignore this seasons failings.

If we do get to the GF it will be to the credit of the players, not Wane. They have pulled games out of the hat on numerous occasions despite poor tactics and the fact Wane is clearly clueless as to how to fix the attack. For this reason, whatever we get out of this season even a GF win, Wane needs to go. If he doesn't we will have a repeat performance in 2017 and will be staggering from one win to the next again hoping everyone else is as bad as they have been this season (which is not that likely IMO) so we don't end up in the middle 8's.

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Quote: DaveO "The fact if we get to the GF and lose it that statistically we will have done better than last year because we got further in the cup cannot be used as something to save Wane's bacon. This would be fine example of the old adage "There are lies, damned lies and statistics". It is obvious to everyone except perhaps Wane we are going backwards despite a cup semi final and a chance of a GF place. What state Leeds and Hudds are in is irrelevant. Anyway on actual league wins I'd be surprised if we were not worse this year than last. The home record is certainly dire in comparison.

We used to regularly get similar stats thrown out defending Noble. "Look we got to a semi final" was the defence ignoring the dour RL and ultimate lack of success. He paid for it eventually but as you said when his contract was run down. It may be history is repeating itself on that score but if it is, IL is playing with fire. People are really fed up with the dross on the pitch and only those with blind loyalty will see a GF place as sufficient to ignore this seasons failings.

If we do get to the GF it will be to the credit of the players, not Wane. They have pulled games out of the hat on numerous occasions despite poor tactics and the fact Wane is clearly clueless as to how to fix the attack. For this reason, whatever we get out of this season even a GF win, Wane needs to go. If he doesn't we will have a repeat performance in 2017 and will be staggering from one win to the next again hoping everyone else is as bad as they have been this season (which is not that likely IMO) so we don't end up in the middle 8's.'"



Or the old adage "Players win games, coaches lose them"!!!!!!

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