Harris and Deacon seemed to have us playing well, TL has been bought as player and then moving to coaching. I would think it is safe to assume he will be filling similar roles to the aforementioned. Plus if he plays, he's not matty smith?

The same was said when we lost the GF last year.

Fair comment he would certainly have some input but the question would be would Wane actually drop smith for him to play? I can only see Tommy L playing interchange hooker under a wane regime.

Good point, would only say that do you think they have improved. I think they have, Williams after a bad international showing is really up and running again after a bad injury, Gildart is looking better and better. I know we all want the win but I think with a just a couple of players back we could be right in it (Gelling I think is a big miss, as well as Faz) and we could be saying we got through by beating an exceptional Hull side. ateotd we just lost (if some forward pass decisions went our way we could have!) and we lost against a very very good Hull team. Calling for Wane to be sacked after that seems to be a knee jerk to me.

Sam was seriously injured before we resigned him..he will never be the same player again, though i do think his experience etc will be good for the team, but not on the silly money he is commanding.

Mossop is garbage, no aggression, a character from the wizard of oz sums him up.

Flower has been average, discipline has been poor, mind the whole team is guilty of this.

Crosby average joe, average yards.

Not interested in Aus salary cap, this team is so average and poorly coached with shocking discipline it a joke.

Tommy is a stop gap for his coaching but if people are thinking a Paul Deacon style signing they need to look who was the coach then and who is now.

Wane is a joke and should be sacked tomorrrow.

He won't be though so we can trundle on to another end of the season playing garbage rubbish rugby and slowly watching the fans disappear with no pots in the cabinet..

Sorry new to forum, should put this on same reply!

I think he would, he has said many times Wigan is a team where you have competition to your spot which Smith lacks atm. Though you might be right, can only tell next season

Next season? What about this season! We will sound like Wire if we are not careful next season will be "our year". Last year Sam was going to be the saviour in 2016, now it's TL next year. Getting a bit fed up of this.



Injuries are part of the game. In any case our attacking problems have been going on for two seasons at least now regardless of who is fit. Statistically I believe it is our worst attack in a season since 1982 and we are averaging 19 points a match. That is the problem right there and the person who is responsible ultimately for that is the coach. It also means we are very boring to watch! We play like robots and Smith and Powell virtually [inever[/i take the line on.

We play the same game week in, week out regardless of who is on the pitch. We have one game plan and Wane expects young players or players out of position to execute it. Quite often we even play with effectively 16 players as he puts a player on the subs bench who he brings on for 10 minutes. He subs by the clock and takes players off who are causing problems regardless of what is happening on the pitch.

The "our attack is useless" is now a stuck record to the extent it's drowning out all the other inadequacies. If we win the GF it will be more luck than judgement and I'd replace him anyway.

Won't happen though. IL will point to the injures, say we have TL and Budgie back next year. If so we can expect more of the same.
I think with a different coach we'd be a far better team . Just as we were when Madge replaced Noble.

Take the blinkers off. There are no exceptional sides in this league. Wane needs to be sacked because he has seen Wigan knocked out of the CC three seasons running, all in a way that the blame can be laid fairly and squarely at his tactics. He was outcoached by Powell and Chester previously and the problem with the attack that cost us the game tonight has been around a lot longer than this game and this season. Knee jerk reaction it is not. Stop making excuses for a poor coach.

Been watching Wigan & Man Utd since my Dad ( God rest his soul) took me to the games in te early 70's relegation for both were my early memories but I was hooked and have followed both home and away until around 2009.

I now go to both several times a year but I must say this is the least entertaining Wigan side i have seen in my life.
We need a change with a focus on free flowing rugby which means Wane must go.....harsh maybe necessary absolutely.

Time for a change now 5 years is enough
Bottled the last 2 grand finals and countless big games
But the biggest oversight is the failure to recruit a top goal kicker in the last 3 years

SW is totally and utterly out of his depth.
Monday will involve a kick up the arris and more weights plus weights.
Well I'm under the pump and my middles won't hold our anymore so as a supporter of nearly 50 years I must say this is worse than the relegation period.
If he is in charge next year I won't go.
If he is charge next week I won't go.
Until he and KR are gone I won't give up my hard earned cash and yawn for 2 hours anymore. As fans we must protest and stop attending until the total utter shoite that surrounds the club is eradicated
Total utter tripe.