I agree with your season review and we have been 5hite to watch all year
Sadly that is all you need nowadays to make the top 4 play offs
We are still up for all 3 trophies but that is a stark reminder of how bad SL is and not how good we are unfortunately

I am getting bored of watching us under Wane as it is tedious and robotic each week and if we are in the entertainment business then we should be sued

Irrespective of how our season pans out I would love a new imaginative coach in charge of us for 2017 who could reinvigorate our club
If Madge had stayed with us I still believe that we could have won every trophy

I hope you are right I really do but I remain to be convinced. I have not seen a great performance all season (a couple of decent games) and I am not sure the team has it in them anymore - I hope I am wrong.

I honestly think considering the injuries and disruption throughout the season to be where we are in the table is a testament to the coaching staff and how we manage our salary cap. Not having a 'top heavy' cap where a few names take a high percentage of the cap.

Even now we have a number of first teamers missing, this has been something we've come to terms with. It's not an excuse as I think, all considering we've been winning and are still in the hunt for the two main trophies.

I think, from what I can recall off the top of my head, the best rugby all season was first half v Cas in the CC. I expect a similar performance v Hull. We control the ruck, suffocate their attack and deliver 'the move' at pace.

I'm not a betting man, but I would bet we beat Hull.

We can definitely still win ALL 3 trophies because the rest of the SL mob are all very poor too

Do we have to bring an A game performance to actually win a trophy this season?

I want to see us winning finals in style and blowing sides away with our free flowing rugby
Sadly Wane's coaching ability only extends to making us competitive and difficult to beat on our day

It's only an excellent post, if the team learns from it, and if Wane learns from it.

Time will tell the tale, are we good enough in single games where it matters, is Wane capable of getting this team doing something different?

Now before you call me a muppet because I don't come on here complaining every week (posting the same frustrating posts every week is as monotonous as watching us play), my views haven't changed from around this time last year when our attack just went stale. Irrespective of results, out efforts with ball in hand, options, creativity, variation, we have gone backwards, to the point now we can't actually get any worse. People repeat we will be fine once we get players back, we had good team out Friday and played the worst game of RL I've seen from Wigan in a very long time.

Please explain how you think we are going to improve as a team, don't mention returning players, explain how Wane is going to transform our attack with whatever players he has available. I'll quite happily discuss this with anyone, without name calling, a purely RL based discussion.

I honestly don't know how to answer that, I'm no more than a fan and can't pretend to be an expert on the game. There are far better posters on here than me who could give a more nuanced explanation; all I know is the management have gotten results in the past and I believe they can again.

Is that your official statement Mr Wane.....

i don`t think so.you only beat us by 1 point at KC,and we beat you by 14 at your place.

Finally somebody hits the nail on the head. Wigan have not put a single 80 minute performance in all season. Yes we've suffered with injuries but no matter who has taken to the field, we have never played well for a full game.
We played some decent rugby against Cas in the 1st half of the cup game but dropped off in the 2nd half. Same v Leeds at Magic and same v Catalan and Saints away.
Our attack has not fired at all. We just can't break down a decent defence that has worked out our move! Our ball control is poor, our passing accuracy has been awful at times with far too many balls going to ground. Our long kicking game goes down the fullbacks throat far too often and our discipline is horrendous! All this just means we give up too much easy possession and field position.
I don't think Saints are a good side but they were far better than we were on Friday. Our league position is unbelievable when you consider the standard of rugby we've churned out all year and it just papers over the cracks. We were very lucky to gets last gasp wins away at Huddersfield, Salford at home and Wakey (other close games too) and our points for column tells the story for me.
I'd never write us off but it's hard to see how we could beat Hull on Friday unless for the first time this year, everything finally clicks and we can nail a decent 80 minute performance. I really hope we can but I'm not holding my breath!

I can't disagree with any of that. Too often we've been reliant on a solo effort from Williams or Gildart to see us over the line, but that should be the icing on an already decent cake. We have no cake, just crumbs!

Saints are not a good side (even/especially their own fans agree!), and Hull are objectively a much better team. But as you say, Saints didn't have any problems nullifying us on Friday. Which wasn't hard, to be fair.

I'd be seriously questioning our coaching if we went for two when losing by more than two (unless it was seconds before half time).