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Gracious in defeat is clearly not a phrase that Powell is familiar with. Can't see RFL being too happy with his comments about the ref who did a good job dealing with two fired up competitive sides. Way too much talking back to ref's (from all teams) and it needs sorting. Perhaps the RFL should also point out to him that there's way too much being said by Powell about their ref's, it's getting to be a bit too regular from him but maybe coaches shouldn't be interviewed when they're feeling the heat of the moment either.
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Castleford coach Daryl Powell accused Grand Final referee Ben Thaler of losing his cool after his side suffered a 33-26 defeat by Wigan.
Powell told the post-match press conference he expects a fine from the Rugby Football League after claiming the way Thaler spoke to his players during the game was unacceptable.
Thaler, who was Super League's top referee in 2016 after controlling both the Challenge Cup final and Grand Final, sin-binned Castleford centre Jake Webster on the stroke of half-time after he complained about him not awarding the Tigers a penalty which could have levelled the scores.
=#0000FFWe don't want players talking to referees," Powell said  "It was a poor call - there was clearly an offside - but it was poor by Jake.
"It was the way the whole night went, a referee losing his cool completely and that's unacceptable.
"He got dropped after he refereed us in Catalans and, if I drop a player as many times as referees get dropped, I'd probably be getting rid him at the end of the year.
"There was some unacceptable stuff. I'll get fined for this but respect works both ways and players need respect in the way you speak to them.
"The way he was talking to players is unacceptable.
"I'll cop a fine for this but you need to be able to say what you think at times. I haven't complained for over a year about a referee but I'm at the end of my tether."
Castleford, on a high after comprehensive back-to-back wins over Leeds and Warrington, led 8-6 thanks to an early try from Paul McShane and winger Denny Solomona kept them in touch with two tries to extend his lead at the top of the Super League try chart to 20 but rugby union-bound winger Josh Charnley scored the second of his two tries on 54 minutes to open up an ultimately crucial 14-point lead.
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Gracious in defeat is clearly not a phrase that Powell is familiar with. Can't see RFL being too happy with his comments about the ref who did a good job dealing with two fired up competitive sides. Way too much talking back to ref's (from all teams) and it needs sorting. Perhaps the RFL should also point out to him that there's way too much being said by Powell about their ref's, it's getting to be a bit too regular from him but maybe coaches shouldn't be interviewed when they're feeling the heat of the moment either.
www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... ree-thaler
Castleford coach Daryl Powell accused Grand Final referee Ben Thaler of losing his cool after his side suffered a 33-26 defeat by Wigan.
Powell told the post-match press conference he expects a fine from the Rugby Football League after claiming the way Thaler spoke to his players during the game was unacceptable.
Thaler, who was Super League's top referee in 2016 after controlling both the Challenge Cup final and Grand Final, sin-binned Castleford centre Jake Webster on the stroke of half-time after he complained about him not awarding the Tigers a penalty which could have levelled the scores.
=#0000FFWe don't want players talking to referees," Powell said  "It was a poor call - there was clearly an offside - but it was poor by Jake.
"It was the way the whole night went, a referee losing his cool completely and that's unacceptable.
"He got dropped after he refereed us in Catalans and, if I drop a player as many times as referees get dropped, I'd probably be getting rid him at the end of the year.
"There was some unacceptable stuff. I'll get fined for this but respect works both ways and players need respect in the way you speak to them.
"The way he was talking to players is unacceptable.
"I'll cop a fine for this but you need to be able to say what you think at times. I haven't complained for over a year about a referee but I'm at the end of my tether."
Castleford, on a high after comprehensive back-to-back wins over Leeds and Warrington, led 8-6 thanks to an early try from Paul McShane and winger Denny Solomona kept them in touch with two tries to extend his lead at the top of the Super League try chart to 20 but rugby union-bound winger Josh Charnley scored the second of his two tries on 54 minutes to open up an ultimately crucial 14-point lead.
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Quote OJ="OJ"Gracious in defeat is clearly not a phrase that Powell is familiar with. Can't see RFL being too happy with his comments about the ref who did a good job dealing with two fired up competitive sides. Way too much talking back to ref's (from all teams) and it needs sorting. Perhaps the RFL should also point out to him that there's way too much being said by Powell about their ref's, it's getting to be a bit too regular from him but maybe coaches shouldn't be interviewed when they're feeling the heat of the moment either.
www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... ree-thaler
Castleford coach Daryl Powell accused Grand Final referee Ben Thaler of losing his cool after his side suffered a 33-26 defeat by Wigan.
Powell told the post-match press conference he expects a fine from the Rugby Football League after claiming the way Thaler spoke to his players during the game was unacceptable.
Thaler, who was Super League's top referee in 2016 after controlling both the Challenge Cup final and Grand Final, sin-binned Castleford centre Jake Webster on the stroke of half-time after he complained about him not awarding the Tigers a penalty which could have levelled the scores.
=#0000FFWe don't want players talking to referees," Powell said
"It was a poor call - there was clearly an offside - but it was poor by Jake.
"It was the way the whole night went, a referee losing his cool completely and that's unacceptable.
"He got dropped after he refereed us in Catalans and, if I drop a player as many times as referees get dropped, I'd probably be getting rid him at the end of the year.
"There was some unacceptable stuff. I'll get fined for this but respect works both ways and players need respect in the way you speak to them.
"The way he was talking to players is unacceptable.
"I'll cop a fine for this but you need to be able to say what you think at times. I haven't complained for over a year about a referee but I'm at the end of my tether."
Castleford, on a high after comprehensive back-to-back wins over Leeds and Warrington, led 8-6 thanks to an early try from Paul McShane and winger Denny Solomona kept them in touch with two tries to extend his lead at the top of the Super League try chart to 20 but rugby union-bound winger Josh Charnley scored the second of his two tries on 54 minutes to open up an ultimately crucial 14-point lead.'"
IIRC didn't Thaler get dropped because of the Thierry Alibert Fiasco?
Hardly Thaler's fault that he was trying to get Alibert to overturn a ridiculous VR decision by pointing out to the Video Ref that he'd got it wrong, bearing in mind ultimately the ref then said he understood the players frustration but he had to go with the VR call.
As for last night, Typical of someone losing their head.
Bring up and mention a dozen things that give the impression there is an issue but when you dissect each one individually you work out that it wasn't that bad at all.
It's like the people who read stuff on Facebook and Twitter etc. and get all worked up about it because they can't be arrissed to actually research the truth for themselves and go into some kind of faux outrage!
Using the Gildart offside as an example - Sit down Powell with a referee, go through the rule book and then tell us who was right and who was wrong? My mates a SL Official and it's amazing how much they actually do know when you sit down with them!
He's complaining about how Thaler talked to his players, How's about having a look at how his players talked to Thaler?
Numerous examples last night where they questioned what he said multiple times before he told them to "get Away".
Maybe he should have binned more of them?
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Quote OJ="OJ"Gracious in defeat is clearly not a phrase that Powell is familiar with. Can't see RFL being too happy with his comments about the ref who did a good job dealing with two fired up competitive sides. Way too much talking back to ref's (from all teams) and it needs sorting. Perhaps the RFL should also point out to him that there's way too much being said by Powell about their ref's, it's getting to be a bit too regular from him but maybe coaches shouldn't be interviewed when they're feeling the heat of the moment either.
www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... ree-thaler
Castleford coach Daryl Powell accused Grand Final referee Ben Thaler of losing his cool after his side suffered a 33-26 defeat by Wigan.
Powell told the post-match press conference he expects a fine from the Rugby Football League after claiming the way Thaler spoke to his players during the game was unacceptable.
Thaler, who was Super League's top referee in 2016 after controlling both the Challenge Cup final and Grand Final, sin-binned Castleford centre Jake Webster on the stroke of half-time after he complained about him not awarding the Tigers a penalty which could have levelled the scores.
=#0000FFWe don't want players talking to referees," Powell said
"It was a poor call - there was clearly an offside - but it was poor by Jake.
"It was the way the whole night went, a referee losing his cool completely and that's unacceptable.
"He got dropped after he refereed us in Catalans and, if I drop a player as many times as referees get dropped, I'd probably be getting rid him at the end of the year.
"There was some unacceptable stuff. I'll get fined for this but respect works both ways and players need respect in the way you speak to them.
"The way he was talking to players is unacceptable.
"I'll cop a fine for this but you need to be able to say what you think at times. I haven't complained for over a year about a referee but I'm at the end of my tether."
Castleford, on a high after comprehensive back-to-back wins over Leeds and Warrington, led 8-6 thanks to an early try from Paul McShane and winger Denny Solomona kept them in touch with two tries to extend his lead at the top of the Super League try chart to 20 but rugby union-bound winger Josh Charnley scored the second of his two tries on 54 minutes to open up an ultimately crucial 14-point lead.'"
IIRC didn't Thaler get dropped because of the Thierry Alibert Fiasco?
Hardly Thaler's fault that he was trying to get Alibert to overturn a ridiculous VR decision by pointing out to the Video Ref that he'd got it wrong, bearing in mind ultimately the ref then said he understood the players frustration but he had to go with the VR call.
As for last night, Typical of someone losing their head.
Bring up and mention a dozen things that give the impression there is an issue but when you dissect each one individually you work out that it wasn't that bad at all.
It's like the people who read stuff on Facebook and Twitter etc. and get all worked up about it because they can't be arrissed to actually research the truth for themselves and go into some kind of faux outrage!
Using the Gildart offside as an example - Sit down Powell with a referee, go through the rule book and then tell us who was right and who was wrong? My mates a SL Official and it's amazing how much they actually do know when you sit down with them!
He's complaining about how Thaler talked to his players, How's about having a look at how his players talked to Thaler?
Numerous examples last night where they questioned what he said multiple times before he told them to "get Away".
Maybe he should have binned more of them?
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"IIRC didn't Thaler get dropped because of the Thierry Alibert Fiasco?
Hardly Thaler's fault that he was trying to get Alibert to overturn a ridiculous VR decision by pointing out to the Video Ref that he'd got it wrong, bearing in mind ultimately the ref then said he understood the players frustration but he had to go with the VR call.
As for last night, Typical of someone losing their head.
Bring up and mention a dozen things that give the impression there is an issue but when you dissect each one individually you work out that it wasn't that bad at all.
It's like the people who read stuff on Facebook and Twitter etc. and get all worked up about it because they can't be arrissed to actually research the truth for themselves and go into some kind of faux outrage!
Using the Gildart offside as an example - Sit down Powell with a referee, go through the rule book and then tell us who was right and who was wrong? My mates a SL Official and it's amazing how much they actually do know when you sit down with them!
He's complaining about how Thaler talked to his players, How's about having a look at how his players talked to Thaler?
Numerous examples last night where they questioned what he said multiple times before he told them to "get Away".
Maybe he should have binned more of them?'"
I thought Thaler was great last night, my only gripe with him was why he didn't put Cas on a team warning for backchat.
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| One thing that I would complain about is the walking forward off the mark by both teams. A couple of times players stood up and walked forward putting the tackler between them and their own player at the PTB. As a result things were a bit scrappy.
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| Or sin bin Bateman for his sh1111thouse tactics. Of course not.
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"Or sin bin Bateman for his sh1111thouse tactics. Of course not.'"
Seriously? 
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"Or sin bin Bateman for his sh1111thouse tactics. Of course not.'"
Or Solomona for slapping our players on the head? Of course not.
Tbh if we start sending off players for those kind of things we'd finish with about 3 players on the field. It's like some people expect the players to be robots and play with no aggression whatsoever.
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| The RFL do have an unofficial 'underdog' clause in their rule-book whereby if you're: (a) a small club, (b) from Yorkshire, (c) have pulled off a couple of surprising wins, and (d) haven't had your ground renovated since 1968 - then your players are entitled to say whatever they want to the referee and should expect every 50/50 call to go their way.
So I can understand why Daryl thought there were "some baffling things out there" in his post-match interview.
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| Quote phibes="phibes"The RFL do have an unofficial 'underdog' clause in their rule-book whereby if you're: (a) a small club, (b) from Yorkshire, (c) have pulled off a couple of surprising wins, and (d) haven't had your ground renovated since 1968 - then your players are entitled to say whatever they want to the referee and should expect every 50/50 call to go their way.
So I can understand why Daryl thought there were "some baffling things out there" in his post-match interview.'"
When you put it that way, it makes a lot more sense.
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| Quote phibes="phibes"The RFL do have an unofficial 'underdog' clause in their rule-book whereby if you're: (a) a small club, (b) from Yorkshire, (c) have pulled off a couple of surprising wins, and (d=#FF0000) haven't had your ground renovated since 1968 - then your players are entitled to say whatever they want to the referee and should expect every 50/50 call to go their way.
So I can understand why Daryl thought there were "some baffling things out there" in his post-match interview.'"
Whats the point of renovating it when they've started building our new one.
Then we'll own 2 grounds more than you. 
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"Whats the point of renovating it when they've started building our new one.
Then we'll own 2 grounds more than you.
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At least the RFL won't then need to fudge and bend and break the rules to keep you in.
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