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Quote: Grimmy "I'd class Peacock is a good cool head under pressure though. He will stand up for himself and his team mates in fights obviously but I tend to think that's when it is required of him to be an enforcer (e.g when Fielden got floored) rather than when the opposition have managed to get under his skin. You can't really put Peacock off his game like that, but you can with Bateman.

Farrell was a brilliant player, lead by example and him rollocking the team under the sticks was crowd pleasing, but controversially I'm not convinced his 'shout at everyone' style of captaincy was very effective. I suppose it's difficult not to give a player the captaincy when he is a miles better player than those around him though.

Sinfield - I've no idea what his pace has to do with it. Again, he was a cool head under pressure, no issue with him talking to the referee, I don't recall him ever giving away a penalty for dissent or appearing out of control. He is likely someone the referees could communicate effectively with. I can't say the same for Bateman at this stage.'"


It's pretty clear that, either together or individually, Peacock and Sinfield provided what Leeds are sorely lacking at present - and that is quality leadership.

Faz's shouty style was more from the Alex Murphy school of captaincy, and the trouble with that is if that's all you've got where do you when the players get used to it? That, for me, is why Murph ultimately got found out as a coach. But as you stay, Faz was so much better than everyone else around him that he was a towering figure and an obvious skipper.

I preferred the Hanley approach myself, which was to maintain a constant dialogue with the ref and rather than publically bollock his players if they got things wrong, have a quiet and encouraging word with them. I know he gave out team rollockings, but that's fair enough as no individual was being humiliated.

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I didn't say I was defining his career on that moment nor would I say that typified him as a player or captain. I was merely pointing it out as a fact as Grimmy had said he didn't recall Sinfield ever giving away a penalty.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: FIOS "I didn't say I was defining his career on that moment nor would I say that typified him as a player or captain. I was merely pointing it out as a fact as Grimmy had said he didn't recall Sinfield ever giving away a penalty.'"

I think you have misread my post. I said I couldn't remember him giving away a penalty for dissent, i.e he is presumably talking to the referee in an acceptable manner

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Quote: FIOS "I recall Sinfield getting a red card for head butting someone not so long ago.'"


It was Castleford's Luke Dorn that Sinfield head butted. In his recently released book, Sinfield said he has no regrets over the incident.

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Every player has done something in their careers on or off the pitch they aren't proud of but Sinfield was a born leader and i think it's glaringly obvious who was the real coach at the Rhinos. How many of those close games Leeds have lost would they have won with Sinfield in the side? He epitomises what a captain should be. As much as i hated the fact he played for Leeds i don't think anyone could deny begrudgingly wishing he played for their team. When he announced he was leaving early last season McDermott started leaving him out of the side for Sutcliffe, that didn't last long. McDermott probably knew in those few matches he was going to be in great trouble this season. Losing Aiton was a blow for him, he had probably hoped the money he spent on Falloon was going to be used for a new no. 7

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Quote: Grimmy "Farrell was a brilliant player, lead by example and him rollocking the team under the sticks was crowd pleasing, but controversially I'm not convinced his 'shout at everyone' style of captaincy was very effective. I suppose it's difficult not to give a player the captaincy when he is a miles better player than those around him though.'"


Bateman is as close to Faz as any player I can think of. His ability to lead by example and take a game by the scruff of the neck by pure aggression is almost parallel.

Quote: Grimmy "Sinfield - I've no idea what his pace has to do with it. Again, he was a cool head under pressure, no issue with him talking to the referee, I don't recall him ever giving away a penalty for dissent or appearing out of control. He is likely someone the referees could communicate effectively with. I can't say the same for Bateman at this stage.'"


The pace point was in reply to CW's post above mine. The fact that Lockers has lost a lot of pace is irrelevant IMO.

I actually think Bateman has matured a lot even since last year. Wane wouldn't have given him the captaincy against Huddersfield(?) if not.

Plenty of captains have been naughty boys. Morley, Tallis, Harragon, Gallen etc. it is not a measure of captaincy.

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