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| Quote: ChrisA "I have only seen the highlights due to being on a family holiday, apart from the score what were the positives?'" like wane said, we played well for the first 20 in each half. In these spells we looked far more organized than we have all season. There was shape in attack with passes finding the right men, this is most obvious in the isa and gildart tries. It might just be that leeds were terrible but i think its down to having more of our playmakers fit.
The other big positive was the end to sets. We were consistently putting up bombs that landed yards from the leeds line and had 1 or 2 chasers competing for the ball or tackling the receiver immediately. Hardaker dropped one for an isa try and we scored two more from them in the second half. Both sam and smith were doing the long range kicking with williams getting more involved close to the line.
In the end we completed at about 75-80%, conceded off two poor missed one on ones, and didnt play as well in the last 20 but that was without sam and lockers. Im not getting too excited because leeds have been so bad but there were signs of organization and game management that ive not seen all season and will make us difficult to beat if we keep them up. Really looking forward to the cas game now, it will be a good test of whether we have improved.
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| Just read the thread and I don't get the criticism of Gildart and Sutton. IMO these are two of the brightest prospects we have and like Budgie before them have that something about them that says they are natural RL players and could go on to great things.
They are both young and seem to be getting criticised as if they were at their peak. To put this in some sort of perspective, Gelling is 25 ands still makes daft mistakes yet often gets away with it with fans and is often referred to (still) as a work in progress yet Gildart is only 19.
I don't think they are the issue at all. It's more senior players who deserve putting under the microscope. For example saying Sam being back takes pressure off Smith. Smith shouldn't need pressure taking off him, he should take it off Williams. Instead because Smith is so static and predictable defenders can mark Williams without worrying about Smith.
I have not seen the Leeds game (was at a Status Quo concert, late birthday present from the wife ) so my comments are general and made because I think people are being a bit harsh on two excellent young players.
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| I don't really see it as criticism but more as people recognising their talent but also recognising there's things to work on. Sutton and Gildart are clearly very very good prospects and whilst I can pick out numerous strengths, I can also see weaknesses. They will need to work on these to become the players they can be.
If we compare them to Gelling I think he's worked on some of his weaknesses. He has improved in a lot of ways but again there's room for improvement.
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| Quote: DaveO "
I have not seen the Leeds game (was at a Status Quo concert, late birthday present from the wife
Status Quo is a good comparison for our play at present, same three chords, too predictable but still better than most of the new stuff around.
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| Quote: DaveO "Just read the thread and I don't get the criticism of Gildart and Sutton. IMO these are two of the brightest prospects we have and like Budgie before them have that something about them that says they are natural RL players and could go on to great things.
They are both young and seem to be getting criticised as if they were at their peak. To put this in some sort of perspective, Gelling is 25 ands still makes daft mistakes yet often gets away with it with fans and is often referred to (still) as a work in progress yet Gildart is only 19.
I don't think they are the issue at all. It's more senior players who deserve putting under the microscope. For example saying Sam being back takes pressure off Smith. Smith shouldn't need pressure taking off him, he should take it off Williams. Instead because Smith is so static and predictable defenders can mark Williams without worrying about Smith.
I have not seen the Leeds game (was at a Status Quo concert, late birthday present from the wife
Who are you, and what have you done with the real DaveO???
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WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
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CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
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Wigan |
29 |
768 |
338 |
430 |
48 |
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Hull KR |
29 |
731 |
344 |
387 |
44 |
Warrington |
29 |
769 |
351 |
418 |
42 |
Leigh |
29 |
580 |
442 |
138 |
33 |
Salford |
28 |
556 |
561 |
-5 |
32 |
St.Helens |
28 |
618 |
411 |
207 |
30 |
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Catalans |
27 |
475 |
427 |
48 |
30 |
Leeds |
27 |
530 |
488 |
42 |
28 |
Huddersfield |
27 |
468 |
658 |
-190 |
20 |
Castleford |
27 |
425 |
735 |
-310 |
15 |
Hull FC |
27 |
328 |
894 |
-566 |
6 |
LondonB |
27 |
317 |
916 |
-599 |
6 |
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27 |
1032 |
275 |
757 |
52 |
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Toulouse |
26 |
765 |
388 |
377 |
37 |
Bradford |
28 |
723 |
420 |
303 |
36 |
York |
29 |
695 |
501 |
194 |
32 |
Widnes |
27 |
561 |
502 |
59 |
29 |
Featherstone |
27 |
634 |
525 |
109 |
28 |
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Sheffield |
26 |
626 |
526 |
100 |
28 |
Doncaster |
26 |
498 |
619 |
-121 |
25 |
Halifax |
26 |
509 |
650 |
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22 |
Batley |
26 |
422 |
591 |
-169 |
22 |
Swinton |
28 |
484 |
676 |
-192 |
20 |
Barrow |
25 |
442 |
720 |
-278 |
19 |
Whitehaven |
25 |
437 |
826 |
-389 |
18 |
Dewsbury |
27 |
348 |
879 |
-531 |
4 |
Hunslet |
1 |
6 |
10 |
-4 |
0 |
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