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Only 4 but some quality there. Guessing McIlorum is the biggest loss and the one effecting performances the most? Always hated him (which obviously means I quite rate him)

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Quote: Sunshine state "Hull and Cas have been a breath of fresh air for me the way they have been playing Rugby League, big forwards who create the space for their classy half backs, our forwards couldn't burst a paper bag at present, just hope Leeds don't register a long awaited win against us at Newcastle.'"

If Leeds turn up and play anything like a team they will beat us.
We can't make any ground because apart from Bateman we have no other forward who can get over the advantage line. We have one player in Isa who hasn't made one break all season which must be some kind of unfortunate record. If Leeds tighten up their defence and knock us about a bit they just need to wait for us to make our usual mistakes and the tries will come.
The problem is that we have no forwards bar Bateman who may have to play centre again and Clubb who though shows plenty of effort just isn't fit enough to be regarded as top class but is the best of the rest.
The rest of the forwards are useless and unfit which means we have to play a young kid in Sutton week in week out when he should be developed gradually but SW has no other options.
If Flower returns he can't do more than 15 minutes and to be honest has done nothing since 2014 which is probably karma.
We have zero go forward which means we are easy meat for any pack who are determined to get on top of us that's why I think we are so rank bad.
Crosby, Mossop and JT are deserters and once you have done that you are always liable to do it again as soon as the going gets tough.
Basically we have a spineless pack that can be turned over with ease if the opposition pack decide to turn up.

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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "If Leeds turn up and play anything like a team they will beat us.
We can't make any ground because apart from Bateman we have no other forward who can get over the advantage line. We have one player in Isa who hasn't made one break all season which must be some kind of unfortunate record. If Leeds tighten up their defence and knock us about a bit they just need to wait for us to make our usual mistakes and the tries will come.
The problem is that we have no forwards bar Bateman who may have to play centre again and Clubb who though shows plenty of effort just isn't fit enough to be regarded as top class but is the best of the rest.
The rest of the forwards are useless and unfit which means we have to play a young kid in Sutton week in week out when he should be developed gradually but SW has no other options.
If Flower returns he can't do more than 15 minutes and to be honest has done nothing since 2014 which is probably karma.
We have zero go forward which means we are easy meat for any pack who are determined to get on top of us that's why I think we are so rank bad.
Crosby, Mossop and JT are deserters and once you have done that you are always liable to do it again as soon as the going gets tough.
Basically we have a spineless pack that can be turned over with ease if the opposition pack decide to turn up.'"


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Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Chris there is more chance of me getting a ST at Saints than SW asking for help.
Intrinsically I'm a SW fan because he loves the club however, the last 2 years have been torture and I want it to end.
IL also needs to bullet KR whose input to signings has been beyond the pale in its ineptitude'"


Jesus Christ. It's been torture watching us finish second twice and reach two grand finals has it?

I assume, because you're older than God's dog, that you're stuck in the past somewhat. Remembering the golden days in the 80's when we were winning everything.

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Jesus Christ. It's been torture watching us finish second twice and reach two grand finals has it?

I assume, because you're older than God's dog, that you're stuck in the past somewhat. Remembering the golden days in the 80's when we were winning everything.'"

I presume that your about 17 going on about 12? You also probably think that RL really began in 1996 when the Warriors were "formed"? You also probably think that when we have good D and if our middles work well in the wrestle and keep our opponents under the pump we are the best team in the comp.
Fact is in the 80's we got relegated and were absolute tripe but I genuinely was one of the 4000 or so who turned up for every home game.
Fact is I don't need finals every year to keep me watching the club
Fact is probably my favourite season for enjoying the type of rugby we played was 2012 not some dim and distant past when you were just a glint in your grandad's next door neighbour's eye.
Fact is we play absolutely crap rugby which boring the kecks of me.
Is there anything else you want to assume about me Shaun?

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Jesus Christ. It's been torture watching us finish second twice and reach two grand finals has it?

I assume, because you're older than God's dog, that you're stuck in the past somewhat. Remembering the golden days in the 80's when we were winning everything.'"


P Cheese W I am older than Itchy and the dog you mention, as well as being further in the past, but I can recognise a team that have had any semblance of thinking for themselves drained out of them.
The style of play has been diluted from when Madge was here, they have gone from a team that could play to a structure as well has having the ability (and the licence) to change things when required.
The first season after Madge Wigan played some of the best rugby seen at Wigan for years, but that is when the structures installed by Madge were still fresh in the memory. As well we had assistant coaches who had played international rugby at halfback and who could pass there knowledge on.
These assistants were allowed to leave, why have they not been replaced or is it like I am beginning to believe.
That it is because we have an head coach who is frightened of having an assistant who may steal some of his glory by proving that his set in stone style of play should be changed.

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