The players aren't good enough to turn it around and I don't think the coaching staff know what to do different so they just bury their heads and carry on with same tripe.
We won't finish in the top 4 unless ST is the second coming.

I have taken on Paddy Power (some with handicap and others without) in all of Wigans games this season except Saints and have lost once and that was the Castleford game. I genuinely don't think the bookies have latched on to how poor we really are and are relying on recent history rather current form.
Very hapy to nudge up the odds if you make a sensible suggestion and make it a decent bet.
I could add that you also lack conviction asking for odds to lose the final but assume you are just covering your bet

If you don't ask you don't get.
We are currently 15/8 to win so you are asking me to more than double the odds which is a big ask. Make it a decent amount and I will give you the 4/1
The other 2 odds I also accept.
Name your amounts and we can agree where/how we arrange it. If you just want to keep it on trust no problem with that all. If you want an agreement that it's a charity bet then again no problem we can both name our charity.

It will add a bit of interest to the season

Correct Andy our forwards are a bunch of non meter making pussies

Thank god for Bateman who punches well above his weight rather than pussies like Mossop,Clubb,Isa &Tautai who couldn't knock their way out of a wet paper bag

This is my biggest concern regarding our side once the big games come around as sides like Wolves,Hull FC and Catalans have far more grunt than our shower of Plodders