Matty Smith is not good enough, this is a fact.

When we have won trophies with him in the side it is because we have had a good 6 like Blake Green who takes full control. I never rated Green highly but we sure have missed is infulence since he has left. I dont know what is main attribute actually is you go through the important ones for a No 7 and he is poor in the majority of them.

Organisation - Poor
Taking the line on - Poor
Kicking in General Play - Poor
Decision making - Poor
Defence - Poor

There are probably more to this list but these are the reasons why we cant seem to get over the line in the Grand Final IMO

I know it seems that i am making Smith the scape goat in all are problems but I actually think it is more to do with Wane / recruitment....... last night was a example of poor planning / game plan.........why start with Tautai and leave us so down in numbers of the interchange bench. Gregson played 0 minutes, Burke maybe 15 minutes, Sutton maybe 20 minutes Mossop maybe 30 minutes this meant that the middle men had to play long minutes which lead to fatigue in the game (in particular Flower/Clubb) which meant we couldnt make the yards in attack for Smith to put in kicks under less pressure. Plus are outside backs Sarge, Josh, Gels, Gildart, Dom taking too many drives, in particular Sarge so when it came to his full back duties he was knackered and made errors Will Sam be taking that many hit ups? Compare that to Widnes / Hanbury looked fresh and became a deciding factor in the game when he cut open Smith and Gelling.

I mean why select Gregson on the bench then don't put him on......remember this is the guy (Wane) who comes out and says he believes in the young lads so doesn't want to recruit players in who he sees not better than what we have. We all know that Wigan was in for Brett Ferres so we know there is cap available.....but again why did we need another back rower when there is other positions to strength. This leads me to another issue .......Wane was a forward as we all know rough and tough, which is unsurprisingly the way and the only way we play through the forwards / middle rough and tough. This is proven by how bad are attack as become, we are still running the same pattern in attack as when Madge was in charge full back chiming in "the round the back play". Is it a coincidence that our last couple attacking coaches have left the club and Wane as replaced them with his mates (insiders) Deacon and Harris moved on both under a bit of a cloud as we know Wane n Harris dont see eye to eye anymore.

Wane as won trophies and he is a Wiganer through and through i get all that which is great but I dont want to end up like Arsenal for example sticking with a coach and being too stubborn to change.

Crap as usual, rubbish kicking and pathetic defense...

Again great to see the anti Smith gang out in force again this years scapegoat when anything goes wrong ....... Who's next then to have a bad game n get slated .....

I thought all of the team played well today manfredi of course the stand out player but I did not see anyone have as some suggest a terrible game ... But hey hoe each to there own deluded opinion I believe

Ziggy have you ever played the game and stopped a forward a lot bigger than you running at speed ????? Perhaps not time to smell the coffee and wake up like others on here the SL standard has gone poor and in his defence he is the only pivotal player playing in there correct position. Look at Salford Lui is out and they have now lost 2 from 2 since his injury not many teams can lose full back / loose forward not playing in his own position but stand off / first choice hooker injured and no natural loose forward and still win games...

Say you break the components of a half-backs game down: short kicking game, long kicking game, running game, passing game, defence. It's only the long kicking game with Smith that ever looks good, and some of the other sectors are almost completely missing. As was the case yesterday.

There seems to be a real link with Smith between his goal kicking and his general form. He had a poor night with the boot last week and his overall performance was very poor. He again started badly with the boot yesterday and it took him a while to recover his performance that ended up being ok.

I love his passion but you do wonder if he's going to get his form of 2013 back. I'd be more confident if we could pull a goal kicker from somewhere to ease the pressure on him.

Thought he came back from his nightmare game last week pretty well. (So it should against his hometown team). More of that please!