Brown is great going forward, but isn't the best defensively, and goes down 'injured' nearly every game I've seen him play (slight exaggeration but you get the point).

Added to this is the fact that although Widnes have done well and look good, the teams they have beaten are all currently the bottom sides, including both Leeds and Huddersfield at the height of their injury crises. The only team they've lost to are Salford, which are incidentally the highest placed team they've played against.

I'm not saying they're not good, but we've got an unbelievable home record at present, and the best defence in the league so far this season. Widnes have scored a lot of points, but those massive scores were against teams with awful defence.

If we win I think it will be a low scoring win as our attack hasn't been amazing so far, but hopefully our home record and defence can pull through for us.

Good to see you joined this forum to post that rubbish.

Apart from the odd one, most Wigan fans have praised Widnes last night and their fantastic start to the season.

I for one hope you keep it up.

Good on you Grimmy, must make it a little harder when the better of the 2 scrum halfs came from your academy. Joe Mellor has been outstanding this season. Teams still think everything we do is through Brown so he has the freedom Kev doesn't.

Widnes were good for the win and that's that. Wigan's 5 from 5 was papering over the cracks a bit for me. We could easily have lost against Huddersfield, Salford and Hull and the opening game of the season in the mud against Catalan could have gone either way. We won those games and the lads deserve credit for playing the full 80 minutes.
We are very limited in attack and Smith offers nothing. One good game a season is not acceptable and I can't believe we can't attract a better scrum half to the club. Powell has been thrust in full time because of MM's injury but again, just isn't up to the task. Logan was a better option at 9 although he has his faults.
We have a lot of quality on the sidelines in ST, JT, MM and Williams but we desperately need to get better in possession.

From an outsiders point of view last year when you were in dire need of a centre I think Wigan missed a big trick not going for Runciman, very astute signing for me

I quite fancied us, Widnes, to turn you over last night as I have been disappointed with your attacking play, when you get within 30m of the line from what I have seen so far, and last night followed suit.

You scored two tries from our mistakes, which were well taken tries, but other than that for all the pressure and possession you had you just weren't clinical enough again.

You definitely aren't the same side without Williams and I think Joel Tomkins is your biggest threat when the ball goes wide.

We're living the dream at the moment so will cherish a long awaited victory like last nights, but can still see it being yourselves and Wire in the Final.

Good luck for the rest of the season, apart from the return fixture obviously.