That's no loss, Charnley couldn't tackle a hot dinner at the moment.

What's changed in the last 3 years, surely neither competition has change quality too much?
2012 beat pretty much a full many team
2013 lose by a couple of points to a full Melbourne team, in a game where we actually bombed a couple of tries and was missing Hardaker
2016 SL teams dont have a chance??????
Saints were beat before the whistle blew you could hear it in the stands that no one thought they were going to win
Us fans have to back our teams fully and try get some positive atmosphere going
If the players believe they can do it they can

I hope we really go for it tonight, full throttle aggression right in their faces. Niggling, wrestling, punch ups, the lot. Unsettle them early on and get the moaning barstewards rattled.

Standard Wane performance really

I don't mind if you win or lose...but if you lose make it a valiant loss going down at the last minute by a dg or penalty or the freakiest try known to rugby, don't embarrass a whole RL nation like Saints have done 2 years on the bounce.

I can't wait for tonight's game between 2 of the worlds best sides,I think it will be a very close contest with a victory of around 6-8 points either way
I just wish that Sam was playing as he would have swayed the game our way



Saints have been an embarrassment to SL these past 2 seasons with their feeble pathetic performances
If we put in that kind of showing tonight I would be appalled as it isn't in Wigan's DNA to capitulate like the once mighty Saints have done

As a Warrington fan I think that you have a cheek having a pop here as your lot have not ever delivered anything other than a couple of CC wins during the clubs purple patch,They should have won at least a couple of GF's against the Rhinos in 2012 and against us in 2013 when they had the game in the bag

We had an NRL team on the rack in easily our worst season in 6 years. Last night if that had been us i guarantee we wouldn't have capitulated.

As for the GF results, if i speak my mind I'll be entering into the usual merry go round stuff that will invariably end up with accusations of sour grapes, boring conversations about a Blake Green injury even though it didn't stop him playing and other various well versed, tedious partisan guff from both sides.

I was embarrassed last night, the amount of arguments i have got into with Aussies, and Saints just re enforced all their arrogant, condescending ballcocks.

Sounds like excuses from a fan of a losing side to me?

IMO winning a couple of GF's would certainly render any guff from both sides as totally irrelevant would you not agree?
Truth is that Wolves have bottled 2 GF's that they should have won
They lost to a 5th placed Rhinos in 2012 in a season that they finished 2nd and then lost 2 games in the play offs when the pressure was on to Saints at home and then in the final

Why?

They then lost to Wigan in 2013 despite winning by 16 points at one stage in the first half and then never scored again and were eventually beaten by 30 unanswered points

Why?

You can believe/disbelieve all the Guff you want but you know only too well that the Wolves need to deliver the big prize of a GF win to ever be taken seriously
2016 may be your year

as both the Rhinos and the Saints don't look too good at the minute so that certainly narrows down your danger sides with proven play off pedigree

Ok, you win...claim you winnings.
Genuinely cba.

Well I have just got back and all I can say is that was rubbish. Our attack couldn't crack an egg in the last 20m. This is not new though. It wasn't much better last week v Hudds, the week before v Les Cats and for most of last season against any half decent defence.

Wane needs to get this sorted because there is simply no threat or guile from us in that areas of the pitch. You can get away with it and win games in SL as we have done on the opening two fixtures this season but against as good a side as that you need more than pass it along the line followed by a speculative grubber kick, which is all we have to offer.

Poor performance aginst a hell of a Brisbane side that really didnt need to get out of second gear for much of the match,when they did though the gulf in class was huge,as much as it hurts to say it was a pleasure watching them in the end as sometimes you have to sit back and enjoy it

Completely agree. We are running the same lines that Madge brought in in 2010. At that point those lines were difficult to defend as the decision making process was brand new, players weren't drilled to defend them, but that move was already starting to fail by the time Madge left. The lines Brisbane ran last night reminded me in a way of NFL plays, multiple players running at different angles on lines that [ichanged [/idirection - we didn't have the decision making skills to cope with that and our defense was left wide open. It wasn't radically different, it was just different enough to cause coping problems and that's all you need. It isn't money or player pool or any other of the regular excuses that explains that difference, it's simply that we have no imagination or ingenuity (and I extend that to the entire English game) to come up with these different attack formations.