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Quote: Grimmy "I'm not as down on the concept as many seem to be because I don't think this year's results were genuinely reflective of the quality of our top teams, and fully expect SL to win at least a game next year. However, I'm less convinced of the ability of the likes of Cas, Huddersfield and Catalans to drum up a sufficient crowd or have a dig at winning. These are teams that consistently fall short in the play offs, after all. Lets stick with three, work at winning a game, then our first series, then look at taking it to Aus. After that perhaps the competitiveness of the new Super 8s fornat will have improved the rest of the league to the point were expanding the competition could ve viable'"

I agree with this. Take James Roby out of Saints and they are not half the team. Put him back in and they compete. Take Sam and Joel Tomkins plus Josh Charnley and Micky Mac out of Wigan and we only have kids and journeymen in reserve. Leeds have been decimated by injury, aside from losing JP and Sinfield, take Briscoe, McGuire, Ward, JJB & Ablett out and that's a lot to cover, especially as the Cowboys were at full strength.

Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Even our newly relaid pitch took out the mudbath equaliser from last year, when the conditions worked in our favour. (And fair play the Broncos were a delight to watch last Saturday - they gave us a real lesson)

I don't think it will get any worse for Super League teams. Plus, Warrington competed well last year and on current form they probably would have done better than Saints or us. I also agree that outside of those four we wouldn't get the crowds or the quality to compete.

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Quote: leedsnsouths "I think the SL needs to increase the cap if we want our top teams to compete, the cap relative to inflation has gone down in recent years and the poorer teams are holding us back
Theres enough quality in SL to beat NRL teams but it gets spread out by the salary cap, if the top players all played for the 5/6 teams who could afford it then they would be as good as NRL teams
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We should start by ditching 2 teams from Super League. There just isn't the breadth of talent to create the same level of intensity week in, week out...

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Agreed. If we want to improve we have to take hard decisions and it the number of clubs in the top flight. Less volume, more quality. Less easy games, better depth of squads.

That's the way to improve standards and increase competition, not a low salary cap across too many teams.

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I'm not sure how reducing the number of teams makes the game better, maybe we just drop it down to two teams as they will be the best teams ever.

The bigger the gene pool the better the chance of finding superstars. The more teams trying different methods the more chance of a better system emerging.

As for all this "we were found out", the Aussie centres are as big as our props. Their execution is better all around. It's not a case of being found out and so on, it's simply a case the the Australian teams are better, drop Wigan back into SL with the team the started and wins happen.

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Quote: Big Steve "Agreed. If we want to improve we have to take hard decisions and it the number of clubs in the top flight. Less volume, more quality. Less easy games, better depth of squads.

That's the way to improve standards and increase competition, not a low salary cap across too many teams.'"


Maybe the ideal would be a year long 3 leagues of 8, play each other home and away twice (28 games) then the top four play off and the bottom of the top leagued plays the top of the middle league, winner in the top league next year
It would mean higher intensity games week in week out, the big difference between SL and Nrl teams is they they are used to being in a grind and are able to absorb huge amounts of pressure and then switch straight to attack once they have an opportunity

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