Ryan Hampshire can't even get in the Cas team

If Leeds had done that as they have on numerous occasions Sky would have been "champion team" this and "never know when they're beaten" that. Instead, their anti Wigan agenda leads to them picking a loser as MOM, something that I can't recall happening in any of Leeds' numerous smash and grabs.
Hemmings' intro started with "injury ravaged Giants" blah blah and you just knew that Carney would also toe the line. I'm loving it!

I'm very surprised you put class and Gelling in the same sentence!

Gelling has hidden attributes.


Mostly in his britches.


You have got to like him though.

What I particularly liked was when we got penalised for brushing an arm on a Hudds player jumping for a high ball and the Sky team were all over it. A fair decision of course, except about 30 seconds earlier Tierney got bulldozed off the ball as he tried to take a high bomb and the Sky team were banging on about how it was a fair challenge.

Thanks, just what I wanted to hear.



No doubt we'll need to be a lot better to give the Broncos a decent game, though.

Gelling had a very good night aside from a silly offload to Isa (which Isa dealt with but was mysteriously adjudged to have knocked on). He set up our second try and made a great break for our winner which got us in the position. I'd guess he also made the most meters out of all our players by a distance so I wouldn't be all doom and gloom on him.

I'd have him just behind Bateman as our man of the match.

You should never post after a few beers but last night I couldn't help it because I was so angry after a truely awful display.
Well I've sobered up and I still feel the same.
Last season we were rank bad but had a couple of strike players who got us out of trouble on numerous occasions namely Bowen and Burgess. Now they are gone we have got absolutely nothing to offer.
Powell and Smith together is partnership made up in a Saints fans head as joke on the Wigan team unfortunately Wane thinks this is partnership that can "do damage". Useless is being kind to them in terms of their ability. In terms of tactics neither can even start to explain the meaning of the word.
Gelling and Sarginson or Can't pass Won't pass think that kicking on the 2nd or 3rd tackle when they run into a dead end are good tactics. Neither can kick and both are inept at best in terms of basic skills required for a centre. I like a bet and will happily take any bets that neither Manfredi or Charnley will score 20 tries this season. For tactics why don't we put a couple of more middles on the wings and just accept we don't actually need any wingers?
Let's think about tactics in our forwards. Well let's use our smallest forward to make the most yards mainly from first receiver. The rest of the forwards can come in as second and third tackler do sod all with the ball and we can sub them every 20 minutes or to keep them fresh. If it wasn't serious it would be a good joke.
Williams is the only footballer we have at the club.SOL was a footballer but now he has joined the growing ranks of middles so on that point I unfortunately exclude him. IL KR and SW are to blame for this. Our recruitment since KR has arrived has been truely appalling. You can exclude the Tomkins from the recruitment because effectively they were not new blood. What are the tactics they use in deciding upon new recruits? We have a squad full of middles of whom only 2 seem capable of playing for 80 minutes. What are the tactics behind this?
The tactics of the club will now be to big up the Brisbane game because IL knows he needs the cash from the game because season ticket sales are down and you can guarantee that attendances will fall this season because of the dross we will be playing.
God only knows what tactics are discussed in training. It's probably on how to wrestle and 3 man tackles it can't involve any use of a rugby ball.
I think some of the other posters on here have been exceptionally lenient in their views on last night and historically I would also have defended the team irrespective of the performance but last night was a nadir in terms of lack of quality throughout the squad.
My tactics are to bet against Wigan on the handicap until the bookies wise that we are actually crap. Next week Brisbane giving 2 points is like printing money.

Good post Itchy, when Saints fans and Wigan fans are in unison about the Rugby being served up in the game today it is not Rugby League as we know it, middles ....on the edge..etc .good god what is that all about,

And this. Plenty here don't like Gelling, but objectively it was hard to find too much fault with his showing last night, he was certainly one of our best performers. Time and again it was him and Bateman putting in those hard yards and getting us on the front foot.

Yeah, that was a curious refereeing decision. Also, was it my imagination or wasn't there also a moment when Wigan got penalised for a cock-up in the Huddersfield attack when they all ran into each other with scarcely a Cherry and White shirt in sight?

With refereeing decisions like that and the clarion calls for the Giants from the commentary box, you can't help wondering ...

Just because we're paranoid that doesn't mean they aren't out to get us.