Have we actually looked at KS's achievements in the sport? The all time SL appearances, stupidly high on the points scores on SL, Leeds' and RL's charts, etc., etc., etc...

I think, in his favour, the fact that he's massively over-achieved at every step of his career is another great achievement. He's not the biggest, quickest, strongest, etc., etc., but by 'eck he's one hell of a role model, for any sport! If we could bottle a consumate pro, KS would be it. I'd have no qualms voting for him as SPOTY!

Actually I doubt there would be that many. Once you add up all the Leeds 'fans' and all of the inhabitants of 'Yarkshire' who support everything and anyone linked to Gods Own County I doubt there'd be many voters left.

If there was a category entitled '"Which sport do you care most about?" then Rugby League would get my vote, but there isn't.

Sinfield is neither the greatest sportsman in Britain, nor is he the greatest player in Rugby League, so unfortunately he doesn't get my vote for SPOTY. As Man of Steel Hardaker surely qualifies to be in the argument. However as it is entitled Sports PERSONALITY of the Year, poor Zak loses out (probably on the same basis that Fury loses out - you understand this, being familiar with the 'moral fibre' argument).

I can assure you that in deepest castleford and Wakefield, my favourite bent nosed Lancastrian is not always the subject of universal love and appreciation, lol

Isn't the award basically along those lines though. The people who care most about tennis vote for Murray (as well as the Scottish vote). People who like boxing most vote for Fury, F1 for Hamilton etc. It happens every year so why does it become a problem when RL fans do it?

That's why the likes of Adam Peaty in swimming and Max Whitlock in gymnastics have been nominated a couple of times now but finish comfortably near the bottom just making it into 5 figures because those sports don't have the same supporters numbers as others, yet their achievements are up there with the others.

Jebus h christ, is this STILL going on....

I don't suppose it is a problem. As successful captain of England and Man of the Series against NZ, you might argue that Lockers had a shout, but to even suggest that his achievement is greater than Fury or Ennis is just madness. Would you have voted for Lockers if Sinfield hadn't been shortlisted just because he plays Rugby League?