Opposition fans didn't rate Andy Farrell. I even stood next to opposition fans who spent the whole of each game sneering at the 'massively overrated' Ellery Hanley - until he crossed the whitewash for his fourth or fifth try. To be honest, if you've been a Wigan fan for the last 30 years, you'll long ago have learned not to give a diddly squat what opposition fans say.

I think he's always been steady in his performances for England dependable in defence and good in attack. How many more internationals has he got left in him? I think the four nations will possibly be his last? I'm struggling to see a replacement for him atm.

Sam Burgess, or Savelio will, I think.

How about Sutcliffe?

At loose forward? Well, the chances of him playing there for Leeds are remote, Leeds (along with the majority of teams tend to favour an extra ball carrier at 13, and when you already have a hooker, 2 halfbacks, and a full back do you really need a 5th pivot?

I mentioned him as being the best replacement for Lockers in my view. Don't forget
Lockers started at Stand Off.

Sutcliffe is a big lad who will mature into a great all round player.

You need as many ball players as you can get I would have thought. And I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but you can hardly count Hardaker as a pivot.