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| Quote: stillinthepast "You will think we are double doomed if you read todays Daily Express.
In the 3 half columns spread on the Grand Final it deals mostly with the retirement of Jamie Peacock with a 3" column on the match.
Then it finishes off with the following paragraph, "McGuire won the Harry Sunderland Trophy as man of the match and is likely to take over from Sinfield as WIGAN CAPTAIN NEXT SEASON,
McGuire to Wigan ! Wouldn't that be a hoot !!
As long as you send George Williams and John Bateman in the other direction ......
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| Quote: moto748 "Don't all side struggle to get past a set defence from close range? Are Wigan any different to other sides in that respect?'"
Quite so. When we successfully defend repeat sets near our line, it's praised as good defence on our part rather than poor attacking, but when other teams do it to us it's our attack that's at fault, and nothing to do with their good defence.
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| Quote: moto748 "Don't all side struggle to get past a set defence from close range? Are Wigan any different to other sides in that respect?'"
In my opinion Saints are by far the best team for scoring short range tries.
They are generally not a team that can go full length unlike ourselves & Leeds, keep them pinned in their own line and don't give away penalties and they can be beaten (quite convincingly too). It's only when the ref starts giving them penalties (or the opposition give away possession in their own twenty) that they get on a roll and score from short range.
Look at our last two visits to LP for evidence.
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| Of course it should be difficult to score from close range but not as hard as we make it look. As mentioned Saints are masters of it (but in fairness that down to their pretty dull style of play) and the other top sides are far better then us.
It's certainly an area to work on. We are probably the best team in the league from deep (but get labelled as a structured team who aren't the best to watch) but we'll not always be able to rely on that.
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| Quote: MattyB "In my opinion Saints are by far the best team for scoring short range tries.
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Yep, and perhaps no coincidence that their coach made a career of short-range, barge-over tries when he was playing.
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| Quote: Geoff "Quite so. When we successfully defend repeat sets near our line, it's praised as good defence on our part rather than poor attacking, but when other teams do it to us it's our attack that's at fault, and nothing to do with their good defence.'"
Well that doesn't work. Just because our defence may be excellent it doesn't follow our opponent's defense is equally good. If it isn't then if we still struggle to score near the line against less good defences then there [iis[/i an issue with our attack.
What you want to look at is how we go attacking close to the line v the same team as a comparable side. So compare how good we are v Saints close to the line compared to how good Leeds are v Saints close to the line. No idea if these sorts of stats are available but if the general impression is we aren't so good in this area on attack then the fact we might make other teams look poor close to [iour[/i line is neither here nor there.
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