No, both teams lost - simples

Us STILL being the biggest name in British RL hurts don't it..

If you say so. Wigan's golden era is something of a folk memory for most people now so it's difficult to comment on what lasting grandeur it bestowed on your club.

The past is there on record... You need to be concerned about the future.

You forgot to add "least humble" to the list!

Looks like someone's had a successful outing with the rods, several lines out and bites on every one

Some fair points made, in my view. Wigan needs its own stadium, certainly. On the demise of RL, when union first went (officially) professional, all the pundits were up on their hind legs predicting the imminent demise of league and its absorption into RU. It didn't happen then and it's not about to happen now.

Correct. There is plenty of life in the old game yet. Crowds may be down but IIRC they are still better than 15/20 years ago.

Walk through the streets of Bath (just a few miles up the road from me), and yes, you see plenty of people wearing Bath Rugby jerseys. But they're mostly overweight middle-aged men. You don't see teenage girls wearing them like you do in Wigan. People down here don't live and breath union in anything like the same way that communities in the North have embraced league. In other words, I think the foundations of the game in terms of core support are strong.

Nobody, as soon as union comes on in my local club they switch it over to golf that's how bad union is.

I do but don't let that stop you making sweeping statements.

Lovely how people will blast RU then sit and watch Wakefield vs Leigh