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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It wasn't Thursday last night and the attendances were down much more than ours.'"



I was surprised to see how few wire fans made the trip over leeds last night! Could the extra cost of the challenge cup the week before have anything to do with it? Who knows.

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With regard to our sport, I don't know what the answer is. My own view is that too many rule changes have sanitised the sport. It's not too far back in the past when you couldn't wait to see Leeds Bradford just to see what Baz and Stu got up to. All gone now, I'm afraid, resulting in a sport that sees Ben Pomeroy sent off for a "sickening" shoulder charge. Now, where's my flat cap? I know it's raining but the whippet still needs exercising....'"


Sometime I do wonder if we should just play touch and pass such is the outcry every time there's a high tackle, a shoulder charge (a legal one should never have been banned) or a fair and square scuffle. Sky mull over every little incident as if it's a trial.

Maybe too though the players these days are to blame. It only needs the slightest incident for several "stars" of the game to get all up in arms and in the referees face as if it's a big injustice. Years ago players took a whack, threw some punches and then got on with it and respected each other and the official. Some players wouldn't have lasted two minutes against the likes of Kelvin Skerret and Sonny Nickle - two great players who fans loved to hate.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "You do realise that doesn't make sense right.

If we played Saints, Leeds and Wire twice at home every year we'd get more ticket revenue I.e. two 15k vs Saints is better than one 24k game.

Personally I'm not bored with playing the true big boys. At least on those games I'm getting bang for my buck. I'm getting to see a superior quality of game and one which is actually enjoyable.

Also what would your solution be? If we'd have played Wakey instead of Hudds would that have suddenly brought about a bigger crowd?

FWIW I think we want the same - close games that are of a high quality and full of atmosphere. Sadly I feel we differ in the way to get to that. If it was up to me I'd cut the league down to 10 and close up shop to promotion and relegation. Spread our thin talent pool around a smaller number of teams which would in turn bring up the depth, quality and competitiveness of the whole league.

Drop Salford, Wakey and Hudds (mixture of either no money, history or fans) and spread thier players around the rest and it's instantly a stronger comp.'"

I stopped making sense years ago mate. If I ever did.

What I want is 32 teams in two divisions. I watch Wigan home and away and I get bored watching the same old teams week in and week out. I must admit though, I'm just off to Headingley right now, I'm not looking forward to it. And that's not because I think we will get beat, but because I've seen Leeds more than enough.

As for your idea why not just stick with Saints Leeds Wire and Wigan and bin the rest? You can watch a stronger comp each week. Of course if you'd have argued that in 1982 Wigan might've been binned off too. Never to return. Just a thought.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I stopped making sense years ago mate. If I ever did.

What I want is 32 teams in two divisions. I watch Wigan home and away and I get bored watching the same old teams week in and week out. I must admit though, I'm just off to Headingley right now, I'm not looking forward to it. And that's not because I think we will get beat, but because I've seen Leeds more than enough.

As for your idea why not just stick with Saints Leeds Wire and Wigan and bin the rest? You can watch a stronger comp each week. Of course if you'd have argued that in 1982 Wigan might've been binned off too. Never to return. Just a thought.'"


I think it goes back to the age old problem & question - how long do we give teams to sort themselves out? How many chances do we keep handing out knowing that the top level of the game isn't going forwards (it's actually going backwards imo)

A 32 team league would be great but I don't think it can ever happen. 10 teams is more than realistic and it's not too much of a jump to argue it would be truly competitive without compromising on quality.

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I'm not convinced we *are* going backwards; I'd argue we're a lot more competitive against the Aussies and Kiwis than we were 10-15 years ago.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I think it goes back to the age old problem & question - how long do we give teams to sort themselves out? How many chances do we keep handing out knowing that the top level of the game isn't going forwards (it's actually going backwards imo)

A 32 team league would be great but I don't think it can ever happen. 10 teams is more than realistic and it's not too much of a jump to argue it would be truly competitive without compromising on quality.'"

How many sports improve the product by contracting? Surely we can only improve the game by getting more teams involved and by expanding? I keep thinking of the film "Groundhog Day" when I watch Super League now.

Surely giving players like Ryan Hampshire game time in the league can only improve things? We have a huge squad many of whom are being denied game time. Fewer clubs means fewer opportunities for younger players. Not the way forward to my mind.

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