I see what your saying Rogues and maybe it is an over reaction just because Wigan is where my loyalties lie.

But my general perception is that the teams around us seem to be keen on improving their squads no matter where the talent comes from. As for Wigan I get the feeling we would rather play a youngster a year too soon than sign an overseas player who takes up a place for two years and then the youngster would be wasted for that extra year.

I personally think Wire are doing good business with Gidley, Sandow plus the rumours of them being in for Eastmond etc.

I think everyone would agree that ideally this years team would need 1 or 2 signings (in addition to Sam) even before anyone left. However, I think we will probably lose a few and just replace those like for like

Although solid in the role im not a fan of Bateman in the centre if cover is needed I would use Tomkins, although moving position around is not ideal, Tomkins is just getting back to his best at second row he looked hard to handle last night I just think he offers a bit more as a centre in attack.

Well that's very strange. After the game at Hull everyone was saying that Gelling was a natural left centre when he gave that brilliant pass that put Burgess away.

He was chopped and changed last season, often on the left if Goulding was selected as the opposite centre or the right if Sarg was. He then seemed to settle on the right, but now Bateman is being used as a makeshift centre he's been changed again, which seems odd as you'd expect JB to be more comfortable passing to his left.

Maybe we are holding back on announcing new signings until the season is finished to avoid putting some players noses out of joint?

And maybe some of the clubs players are coming from don't want it announced... Just because we don't know, does not mean nothing is happening...