Saying Bowen is fine at 1 is absolute lunacy, he is a liability. One of the worst fullback I've seen in years. And one of the worst foreign imports I think I've ever seen. But he's far from alone in being not upto it.

I think this is a very fair summary and what I've been arguing for ages (though I think you put it better). Regardless of whether we get to Old Trafford this year Wane has earned the right to see out his contract IMO.

The recruitment for next season is crucial now though. No one had really heard of Cuthbertson before Leeds brought him over, so it makes me think that there are loads of players in the NRL who could do a similar job for us. I'd be looking at someone like Lillyman at the Warriors, who runs hard, fast and arrow straight with a quick ptb every time. He's 31 and might fancy it. But our scouts will (should) know better.

As I said the other day, Lillyman and Matulino, please!


If only...

I really don't understand the logic of this. No one earns the right to keep making mistakes. It's not a charity and if he is actually damaging the team and alienating players he needs to go. The is no room for the sentiment you express IMO.

We sacked John Dorahy when the team won the league and the cup because he'd been sussed out as useless and the team won despite him. I think regardless of what happens Wane has also passed his sell by date.



Do we actually have any scouts who pro-actively suggest we might be interested in certain players? It used to happen like that. Or do we only go looking when we think we need a player by which time its probably too late? I have no idea how the scouting is done these days and we do seem a little obsessed with the homegrown thing.

That's a fair point Dave.

But I'm not arguing on sentiment, rather on logic. The point being - he's done all it before - that is , getting a team to play greater than the sum of its' parts. John Dorahy's team was successful in spite of him, not because of him IIRC.

He's going through a bad patch at the moment, and I understand the criticisms, he's certainly killing the backs for example, but I think he has proved himself a good coach and therefor, it's not worth the upheaval of getting someone else in just yet. Rather than the next Madge, we could just as easily get the next Craig Sandercock or Peter Gentle.

But believe me - I understand your frustration.

That is true and I feel success for us this season will only come in the same way.