Williams needs to be given a good run in the side to settle into the role. Neither half back is being helped by the fact that we are struggling to make yards thus playing the majority of the game in our own half. They aren't helped either by the failure/reluctance of Bowen to link up with them in attack or step up as a 3rd pivot like Tomkins used to.

We are making it too easy for sides to get to the halves, we really do need some of the big men to step up to the plate.

Well you can't have it both ways mate. If you are judging him on trophies - you can't then dismiss the trophy by saying we were lucky.

In three seasons he has won 1 of each trophy available. Has any other coach won 3 trophies in the last three seasons?

Who said anything about him doing no wrong? I recognise his faults. We are in a bad way - But he has earned the right to be given time to turn it around surely???

If you can't back a coach with Wane's record who can you back?

Wish I could get out more tbh, weather being consistent would help but we do live in England haha... What bike have you got

Well you should be able to guess from my username... My favourite bike; I've had a couple of them. One yellow and one red.

I came up to Wigan on the bike at the end of last season. It might have been the Leeds game? Friday night fixture, anyway. I remember I had a nice run back heading southeast from Manchester, Glossop way, into Derbyshire. Just lovely around there.

Yup. Brian McDermott - WCC and GF 2012, CC in 2014. We've been awful at times under him but I don't regret the club sticking by him (with hindsight, of course).