Quote: Mugwump "Brisbane's front three were never challenged by Wigan's. Don't confuse your ability to churn up yards fifteen yards+ either side of the centre channel with being on equal terms with Brisbane's pack. With twenty five minutes to go Brisbane wrestled complete control of that channel (not that they ever looked in danger of being challenged there anyhow) and never looked likely to relinquish it.
As for blaming Wigan's total inability to control the centre channel in the GF entirely on Ben Flower. You shouldn't need me to remind you how silly that sounds.
Blame Ben Flower for the GF. Blame Shaun Wane for not picking some kid who hasn't even established himself as a first teamer yet.
If blame is to be apportioned me thinks you are pointing it in the wrong direction.'"
The only thing that's starting to sound silly is your complete corruption of the facts. We stood up against Brisbane without Flower, O'Loughlin and Mossop. We didn't dominate but you wouldn't expect us to with those 3 missing, but we did stand up. In comparison, your pack was mauled by Souths. Now take Walmsley, Amor and your best player, Roby out of your starting line up and how much worse would you have been. Given you were already humiliated with a near full strength pack, I dread to think! Our starting props against Brisbane were Crosby and Sutton. Do I really need to spell this out to you? I know you're not the idiot you seem hell bent on making yourself out to be...
Secondly stop referring to the GF as some sort of marker of the respective packs. If you want to compare use the ONLY time anything near to the full strength packs went against each other last season. What happened then? You do remember Good Friday don't you? The day you were 'taken to school'?
There's no doubt that the Saints pack are looking good this time around. I think you've recruited well in Vea and Greenwood and Walmsley are both looking the business. However, as I've said previously, let our first choice pack at least take the field before making such ridiculous claims. This is the style of pack that has taken us to 2 Grand Finals. I know you're into rewriting history but even you can't deny that it must be getting something right!