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| Quote: cadoo "The jury is well and truly out on Wane. If we were losing against the top four in close contests and the bounce of the ball/lack of experience cost us then I can accept it if the performance is there. George Williams needs to grow into his role. Ryan Hampshire will need more game time. We are a young side and that is not a problem - it's exciting and advantageous when you look at the age of our rival sides.
However the problems we face are just basic. Disgraceful discipline. And "Waney" does not even mention it in his post match comments. He did not fix it at Widnes. He did not fix at Huddersfield. And he hasn't fixed it with Hull KR. And hasn't mentioned it in his post match comments. Will he fix it for Castleford? We are playing dumb at the moment. Do we have a dumb coach? Michael McIlorum needs to keep a cool head as a senior member of the side. Matty Smith has got to improve and take control of the side. Joel Tomkins as a senior player needs to lead by example. Our few senior players are letting us down badly at the moment.
Chris Chesters after match comments were not at all surprising. He said he knew they could get under our skin and put us off our game. It worked. We are a team of hot heads and no-one is taking control. Castleford will do the same next week. Will Wane address this? If he doesn't it will just keep happening.
Fix the discipline and that will fix our game management. Keep composed and build pressure and we will get back to winning games comfortably/performances will improve.
Can Wane put it right for next week?'"
Do had to read this a couple of times as I thought I'd misread it.
"They jury is out on Wane"???????
I didn't go yesterday but obviously it doesn't sound too good.
How can you blame the coach if players give away needless penalties? I believe SW wants an agressive team not a team that gives away penalties for fun.
It's the players fault full stop.
I heard SW interview after the match which was delayed as he was still in the changing room. I don't think that he was talking about the weather. I personally don't want a coach castigating his players via the media as this should bez done face to face with the players.
With regards to other posts on this topic there is no other coach in SL or NRL for that matter who could have coped with the turnover of staff in the last few years better than SW in my opinion. Maguire had no senior players leave apart from Deacon who was replaced by an equally good player. Maguire strengthened the squad from Melbourne and hardly ever gave youth a chance. No knows how he would have performed under the constraints of the last few years. | | |
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There was a story in the Aussie press after Brisbane's first day of pre season saying Eden had come dead last in the fitness tests. Out of all the props and including big backrowers like Thaiday the guy was the most unfit and was really struggling to get through it.
Strikes me as a lad who let hype get to his head! The fact that Sam Tomkins was always the opposite set him apart from guys like Eastmond, Myler and latterly people like Eden.
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Whilst I think Friday's performance against Cas was nothing short of appalling I'm not going to hit the panic button just yet, in the words of Nobby they'll have to put 'humpty dumpty back together again'.
Watching the NRL start this week made me realise how many ex-Wigan players are running around that competition, I've seen Leuluai and Hoffman carry the Warriors at Newcastle, Richards drop a last minute goal to win for the Tigers at Gold Coast and Green play at 6 for Melbourne, our favourite son ST didn't feature due to tight hamstrings and everything Madge touches turns to gold at the moment...even Pettybourne looked half decent. Furthermore you can consider the players that aren't running around and are either working behind the scenes in the NRL or in the media - Carmont, Finch, Riddell.
The point is this, look at our line ups for the last two GF wins and the CC win in 2010, 2011 and 2013:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Super ... rand_Final
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Challenge_Cup
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super ... rand_Final
We have lost an awful lot of talent over the last five years and some of it is making strides in the NRL, what have we replaced them with? - Some will point out the salary cap is to blame and to some extent they would be correct as the player drain continues from SL to the NRL.
Whilst its nice to see the conveyor belt of young talent coming through our ranks...before it heads to the bright lights of the NRL (Burgess) we have shifted from attracting experienced talent to big fish in little ponds, unproven overseas recruits and players returning from RU.
Compound this with an inability to close out games at present, the loss of several forwards in the off season, poor recruitment policies and Mr Pewterschmidt cutting every possible corner to increase profits it's been starting to unravel.
I hope it starts to come together and SW turns it around, as people have pointed out Flower and Mossop will be welcome returns and Bateman is exceptional. However, Williams is inexperienced at 6, Farrell is giving away far too many penalities and Gelling is becoming our Francis Meli i.e. a liability. |
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Whilst I think Friday's performance against Cas was nothing short of appalling I'm not going to hit the panic button just yet, in the words of Nobby they'll have to put 'humpty dumpty back together again'.
Watching the NRL start this week made me realise how many ex-Wigan players are running around that competition, I've seen Leuluai and Hoffman carry the Warriors at Newcastle, Richards drop a last minute goal to win for the Tigers at Gold Coast and Green play at 6 for Melbourne, our favourite son ST didn't feature due to tight hamstrings and everything Madge touches turns to gold at the moment...even Pettybourne looked half decent. Furthermore you can consider the players that aren't running around and are either working behind the scenes in the NRL or in the media - Carmont, Finch, Riddell.
The point is this, look at our line ups for the last two GF wins and the CC win in 2010, 2011 and 2013:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Super ... rand_Final
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Challenge_Cup
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Super ... rand_Final
We have lost an awful lot of talent over the last five years and some of it is making strides in the NRL, what have we replaced them with? - Some will point out the salary cap is to blame and to some extent they would be correct as the player drain continues from SL to the NRL.
Whilst its nice to see the conveyor belt of young talent coming through our ranks...before it heads to the bright lights of the NRL (Burgess) we have shifted from attracting experienced talent to big fish in little ponds, unproven overseas recruits and players returning from RU.
Compound this with an inability to close out games at present, the loss of several forwards in the off season, poor recruitment policies and Mr Pewterschmidt cutting every possible corner to increase profits it's been starting to unravel.
I hope it starts to come together and SW turns it around, as people have pointed out Flower and Mossop will be welcome returns and Bateman is exceptional. However, Williams is inexperienced at 6, Farrell is giving away far too many penalities and Gelling is becoming our Francis Meli i.e. a liability. | |
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| Quote: yickpie24 "Whilst I think Friday's performance against Cas was nothing short of appalling I'm not going to hit the panic button just yet, in the words of Nobby they'll have to put 'humpty dumpty back together again'.
Watching the NRL start this week made me realise how many ex-Wigan players are running around that competition, I've seen Leuluai and Hoffman carry the Warriors at Newcastle, Richards drop a last minute goal to win for the Tigers at Gold Coast and Green play at 6 for Melbourne, our favourite son ST didn't feature due to tight hamstrings and everything Madge touches turns to gold at the moment...even Pettybourne looked half decent. Furthermore you can consider the players that aren't running around and are either working behind the scenes in the NRL or in the media - Carmont, Finch, Riddell.
The point is this, look at our line ups for the last two GF wins and the CC win in 2010, 2011 and 2013:
So Aussies and NZer's have gone home when there is MUCH more money on the table in the NRL... It's really not rocket science... Too many of us are living in the past, and should realise it's the lack of money in SL is doing the damage.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "There was a story in the Aussie press after Brisbane's first day of pre season saying Eden had come dead last in the fitness tests. Out of all the props and including big backrowers like Thaiday the guy was the most unfit and was really struggling to get through it.
Strikes me as a lad who let hype get to his head! The fact that Sam Tomkins was always the opposite set him apart from guys like Eastmond, Myler and latterly people like Eden.'"
Actually that was in mid 30's and high humidity and he struggled liked most people would on their first day if you had just come over from the UK. He wasn't unfit, he just struggled with the conditions. Hardly surprising. | | |
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Actually that was in mid 30's and high humidity and he struggled liked most people would on their first day if you had just come over from the UK. He wasn't unfit, he just struggled with the conditions. Hardly surprising.'"
It must have been a lazy piece of journalism by an Aussie bagging a Pom then.
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