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Joel is playing well though, well the way he's taking the ball up has surprised me. He is taking the ball in regular with the intention of breaking the tackle, apart from the obvious that comes from breaking a tackle, even if he doesn't it's taking more effort and sucking in more defenders to put him down,if he can bring the offload in a little more or the short ball to someone running just off him it creates more opportunities. If we can get him doing that at second row running out wide then his centre and winger will see far more ball in open space.

I'd say Joel and Bateman are our best bet for second row based on early season form.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Bateman is not human.'"


Amazing effort from the guy and what a start to the season he's made. A shoe in for England selection at the moment.

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Is it me or do the stats seem inflated? Surely we didn't have seven players clocking up over 100m (two approaching 200m) when we only had one break all game and only completed 65% of our sets. I know Burgess went about 80m for his try but 194m still seems a bit high. Charnley is at 120m and I barely remember him touching the ball!

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Quote: Grimmy "Is it me or do the stats seem inflated? Surely we didn't have seven players clocking up over 100m (two approaching 200m) when we only had one break all game and only completed 65% of our sets. I know Burgess went about 80m for his try but 194m still seems a bit high. Charnley is at 120m and I barely remember him touching the ball!'"


more metres than Souths and about 100 more tackles than Saints?
it does seem a lot!

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Quote: Grimmy "Is it me or do the stats seem inflated? Surely we didn't have seven players clocking up over 100m (two approaching 200m) when we only had one break all game and only completed 65% of our sets. I know Burgess went about 80m for his try but 194m still seems a bit high. Charnley is at 120m and I barely remember him touching the ball!'"

I know something about how these stats are produced and you wouldn't be surprised to know that they are to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

They are mostly done straight after the game by a fairly young person, most probably a student, who doesn't mind working into the night. They are often football fans who watch a bit of rugby as a second sport. The statistician will watch the game over on a monitor and just compile the stats as they go along. They might not recognise a player, not being familiar with a particular team. Some players who are more recognisable get other players stats through error.

The tackle thing is a minefield. When is someone credited with a tackle? As third man in for example when they've barely touched the attacker? Often the camera angle won't show up who missed the tackle so they just guess. The other season Faz went about twelve games without missing a tackle, which was ridiculous.

And you are right about the yardage too. Anyone watching the game would be staggered how those metres could add up.

The whole process is far from being scientific. A lot of guesswork is involved and human error is massive. Furthermore, how are these things checked? There just isn't the time or the inclination for someone to sit up all night and do a 100% check.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Clubb really needs to start going forward IMO and we need to try and get more minutes out if him. He looks ready to be a leader of our prop forwards and to kick on a level.'"

Clubb's been taken off injured the last two games and is heavily strapped up.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's taking one for the team and playing whilst injured - Wane is using him sparingly as a result. He's been our standout Prop this year.

As for Bateman - I think he can be added to the Green/Smith/Sarginson/Clubb group when people argue that we rely too much on the Academy and recruit poorly.

He's our best player at the moment and as the talent to be a world beater.

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