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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I think it was interesting noting Wane's comments about changing our style of play before the start of the season, I thought this would be something to do with limiting the use of dummy runners as we were having tries disallowed to obstruction. I noticed we were playing flatter and playing off offloads more than I've seen in a long time, I think it might take the team time to adjust. I also noticed Williams was also offloading, maybe him being slightly bigger with the ability to offload is why he's chosen over Hampshire, Williams and Hampshire play the game differently, perhaps Williams' strengths are more appealing to the way Wane wants the team to play.

I think in the first half this worked with more breaks down the middle rather than spinning it out-wide linking in the FB.'"


We do seem to be offloading the ball in the tackle more. What I would like to see is the fullback or halfback following up more down the middle. We need to get away from the round the back / out wide ball to the fullback as the major threat. Teams are aware of it although when it's done properly (with speed and accuracy) it's very difficult to defend against. By supporting the offload in the middle a la Edwards the likes of Hampshire, Bowen, Williams and Sarginson can do a lot af damage with their pace. I'm led to believe that Larne Patrick is the quickest player over 20 - 30 metres at Wigan so he could also be used in that supporting role.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: apollosghost "2010 was the last time we won our opening game and that was against the Crusaders, relax people'"

I agree with your sentiment but we won our opening game in 2013, hammering Salford 42-0

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Quote: Grimmy "I agree with your sentiment but we won our opening game in 2013, hammering Salford 42-0'"


icon_surprised.gifops: My bad, but we do have an awful "first up" record

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Does make you wonder what we keep doing wrong year-in-year-out. We've lost more opening games than won for the last 10 years or so.
(and Giants will not in be a good mood on Friday after today's run-out either)

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Quote: Grimmy "I agree with your sentiment but we won our opening game in 2013, hammering Salford 42-0'"


When Wane took over from Madge he said he was going to cut out performances like that v Widnes as he felt we lost too many winnable games. I know we didn't lose the game but its exactly the kind of performance he was on about. And there have been several such games ever since Wane has been in charge, notably one against Widnes a couple of seasons ago and one at home to a very poor Bradford side as examples.

I don't think some slow start syndrome cuts it as an excuse when the coach says he wants to eradicate performances like that. In the Widnes game he had a half time team talk to sort the tactics out v 12 men but you wouldn't have thought so given the way the team played.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: DaveO "When Wane took over from Madge he said he was going to cut out performances like that v Widnes as he felt we lost too many winnable games. I know we didn't lose the game but its exactly the kind of performance he was on about. And there have been several such games ever since Wane has been in charge, notably one against Widnes a couple of seasons ago and one at home to a very poor Bradford side as examples.

I don't think some slow start syndrome cuts it as an excuse when the coach says he wants to eradicate performances like that. In the Widnes game he had a half time team talk to sort the tactics out v 12 men but you wouldn't have thought so given the way the team played.'"

To be honest I'm pretty sure all top teams still give up shock losses. It's good that Wane has those aims but I do struggle with his arrogance sometimes. Regardless of their respective trophy hauls I wouldn't put him level with Maguire.

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