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Sadly, international RL will always struggle for as long as the NRL continues to be the be all and end all. It must be one of the most insular organisations around.

There has been a catastrophic failure to build on the World Cup, and for as long as these failures are allowed, the game will flounder. For goodness sake, we cant even agree a universal set of rules!

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Quote: NickyKiss "Spot on. I mean who'd get in from the other nations? McBanana would be in charge anyway so that rules out Brough. Whisper it quietly but the only player I can think of who'd possibly get in is Ben Flower and that's not guaranteed (if he did it would be as a squad player).

In the future if the likes of Matty Russell, Ben Currie, Rhys Evans etc ever got the sniff of an England place they'd move over anyway.'"

Which is why we should have home countries and GB IMO. If we had a 4 home nations comp of our own but entered the "real" 4 nations and WC as GB I believe we would have the best of both worlds - English, Welsh, Scots and Irish all getting a chance to impress for a GB spot whilst helping to grow the sport across the whole of th UK.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Here's something that probably won't get mentioned on the "national press"

There were 2,000 more fans at the Suncorp yesterday than at the same venue last week for the Australia v NZ Rugby Union game.

Let's hope that our own RL press at least mention it.'"


I wondered what the crowds were. I certainly saw more gaps in the Union game then I did on Saturday so I'm not surprised.

Great effort that. It's a shame the stadium isn't bigger come the next rugby league World Cup.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Here's something that probably won't get mentioned on the "national press"

There were 2,000 more fans at the Suncorp yesterday than at the same venue last week for the Australia v NZ Rugby Union game.

Let's hope that our own RL press at least mention it.'"


Why would they?

It's a nice bit of spin but Saturday was a double header. There are plenty of British expats in Brisbane who probably wouldn't have gone on the day had England not been playing. Same goes for the Samoa fans who together with the England lot probably contributed a lot towards that 2k.

Also why would the RL press bring it up knowing that over the course of November Twickers will see three if not four 82,000 sell outs vs Nz, Aus, SA and maybe Samoa!

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Quote: Geoff "I have never seen the logic behind this argument. There are few, if any, differences between the GB and England teams, in terms of who is selected...and in fact it gives valuable international experience to those with dual options who would be unlikely to make a GB team but can use a grandparent or similar eligibility to play for one of the other home nations.'"

There is merit to this point of view and I agree that the other three nations would be vastly outnumbered, if represented at all. But who genuinely aspires to represent Wales, Scotland or N Ireland for league? Even Blind Pew would see that they're "also-rans" with as much hope of competing at top level as Burnley have, and so a GB squad that's pulling in the best of what sp talent there is can only be a benefit - the whole being bigger than the sum of the parts.

(tin hat on)

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Quote: CyberPieMan "There is merit to this point of view and I agree that the other three nations would be vastly outnumbered, if represented at all. But who genuinely aspires to represent Wales, Scotland or N Ireland for league? Even Blind Pew would see that they're "also-rans" with as much hope of competing at top level as Burnley have, and so a GB squad that's pulling in the best of what sp talent there is can only be a benefit - the whole being bigger than the sum of the parts.

(tin hat on)'"


FWIW i agree.

Why would none RL fans from Wales, Scotland or Ireland support their RL team when the vast majority, if not all, of the players that make up the side have tenuous links to that country? People aren't stupid and can see it for what it is, a ill-conceived attempt to create something out of nothing.

I'd liken it to the equivalent of the NFL creating English, Welsh and Scottish NFL sides that were made up of Americans who weren't good enough to play for the USA. I would probably go and watch a match if it was being played near me but i wouldn't be claiming it's the birth of an international game.

If we want to develop an extended player base then why don't we just have a GB A team? Have them play against other 2nd tier nations like Samoa, Tonga, France or play them against the first team in a possible vs probables match. I'd argue that we could put a decent side out for a mid season fixture;

1-Ratchford
2-Burgess
3-Cudjoe
4-Hardaker/Bridge
5-Makinson/Briscoe
6-Chase
7-Myler
8-Taylor/Crabtree
9-Clarke/Mcilorum/Hodgson/Roby (2 with the first & two with the A side)
10-Flower/LMS
11-Whitehead/Ablett
12-Bateman/Westwood
13-Harrison/Westerman

That's a useful & youthful looking side who would have a point to prove and a reason to play well.

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