The outcry is justified really. Provoked or not you just cant do stuff like that. Flower lost his marbles and he is looking at 4-6 games at least imo.

Roughing up the other team is part of the game but you need to do it within the rules.

In my opinion the only way Saints were going to win was if we lost our discipline and we fell right in within a couple of minutes.

Wane has got the credit for our sucess but i think today he contributed to our downfall. We didnt need to be so pumped up to win this game and he should have known that. He should have had the players on their guard for getting sucked in.

Saints saw us coming and the rest is history. We need to learn from it and come back stronger.

I'd certainly like to see him given some game time there Grimmy. He could be a revelation long term. I think in the short term he'd be subject to the same problems as playing the other youngsters there, perhaps only more so. Ultimately, it depends on whether you're taking the long term view or not. Perhaps more significantly it depends, in these days of NRL poaching etc. whether you can afford to!

I would have Sarge at FB with Bateman going Centre and Rocky 6.

Ask kirk dixon

Ted Lune another of my Heroes .

So Charlie that's where you get your one liners from?
When you really do a post will it be like the letter from Ted Lune's mother?