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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
He may have made more meters but he doesn't do anything with the ball, there has been so many times this season and last night where he has the option to send his winger away but chooses to do his predictable step in off the left foot. You can see he has the potential and he's still young but only time will tell if he fulfils it.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
He may have made more meters but he doesn't do anything with the ball, there has been so many times this season and last night where he has the option to send his winger away but chooses to do his predictable step in off the left foot. You can see he has the potential and he's still young but only time will tell if he fulfils it.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
Our outside backs always make loads of metres because we use them a lot to bring the ball out of our own half, it means nothing if you can't do the basics of what's expected of your position. Manfredi barely touched the ball last night because Sarginson's first instinct is to step back inside off his left foot.
Sarg is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I think full backs probably his best position but he's well behind Bowen, and Hampshire is next in line. He can do a job 1-7 but have better specialists in every position IMO.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
Our outside backs always make loads of metres because we use them a lot to bring the ball out of our own half, it means nothing if you can't do the basics of what's expected of your position. Manfredi barely touched the ball last night because Sarginson's first instinct is to step back inside off his left foot.
Sarg is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none. I think full backs probably his best position but he's well behind Bowen, and Hampshire is next in line. He can do a job 1-7 but have better specialists in every position IMO.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
too predictable his style of play, quick shimmy and try to beat the man, not a hope in hell he will pass to the winger.
Even Ade Gardener worked him out, don't bother covering the wing man, just smash him as soon as he gets the ball.
Thorniley cant come back soon enough for me.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
too predictable his style of play, quick shimmy and try to beat the man, not a hope in hell he will pass to the winger.
Even Ade Gardener worked him out, don't bother covering the wing man, just smash him as soon as he gets the ball.
Thorniley cant come back soon enough for me.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
Criticism of Sarginson is totally just IMO. He simply isn't developing in the centre position and it's no surprise he's making so many metres because he's made his wingman redundant.
I keep saying it, I like him as a player, he tries his heart out but he can't be a centre. If his only instinct is to always think what 'he' can do with the ball rather then play for the team then wing becomes his only option IMO.
If he'd have blown that first try last night I think I'd have had a breakdown.
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Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think it's a bit harsh on Pettybourne. He's only played two of the last eighteen games, so is bound to be struggling a little for match fitness.
There has been a lot of criticism of Dan Sarginson but he made more metres than any other player on the field last night.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/10064'"
Criticism of Sarginson is totally just IMO. He simply isn't developing in the centre position and it's no surprise he's making so many metres because he's made his wingman redundant.
I keep saying it, I like him as a player, he tries his heart out but he can't be a centre. If his only instinct is to always think what 'he' can do with the ball rather then play for the team then wing becomes his only option IMO.
If he'd have blown that first try last night I think I'd have had a breakdown.
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| Pettybourne was disappointing. The only excuse you can make is he hasn't had much game time this year but you'd hope for some significant improvement in time.
Sarginson looks like a full back or half back for a mid table side.
He may have just about scored but Manfredi would have had a walk in. Thornley isn't the finished product by any means but he looks a better bet at left centre going into the playoffs.
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| I still wouldn't rule Goulding out. He may be leaving but he's ours for now and we've got games to win.
His centre play is light years ahead of Sarginsons at the moment.
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| Quote jonh="jonh" Tautai I really rate but I see him again more as a backrow and he certainly lacks experience as a Prop. '"
Wane has said he sees Tautai playing in the middle. Sounds like he'll play more front-row than back-row for us.
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| It was a repeat performance of the Bradford game with a different result.
Did we score too early as at Odsal? Not too much effort and we had a four point lead. The props weren't hitting up as usual and Chester employed the same tactics as Lowes in shutting down out wide out runners.
Clubb will probably come in at Widnes but he played at Bradford so I'm not too sure things would have been much different had he been out there.
Another performance like that at Widnes and I don't think we'd get the one League point.
As for Sarginson, he's repeatedly getting the ball surrounded by three players. That he can beat one or two is an achievement. The runners and dummy runners are taking up too much space and crowding out our centres and wingmen. Game after game he and Gelling do not have any space in which to work and bring their wingmen into play.
I think Sargy is a talented lad playing in one of the most difficult positions on the field.
In two weeks at Widnes it's the ipitch and perhaps Bowen won't play with him having so called "dodgy knees" so Sargy may well play full back with Thornley at 4.
Whoever plays where if we want the two points then a massively improved game is needed.
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| Gelling had enough room to get a few balls away to Charnley including the match winner (although that included a few bad passes). He also had enough room to score three try's against Salford and get Charnley some ball.
To say Sarginson is being crowded out is incorrect for me. There's times he has plenty of space in 2 on 2 or even 2 on 1 situations with his opposite centre/wing combo but he just plays with his head down and runs away from his winger. Even when he got nailed by Gardner last night I felt he could have done a lot better. A proper centre would have flicked that ball on at pace to his winger yet Sarg got hammered because his first instinct is to run the ball. Either way he was getting nailed but instead of a knock on he had a 50/50 shot at getting his winger in.
Ultimately I want to see signs he's learning but I don't and that's worrying.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Gelling had enough room to get a few balls away to Charnley including the match winner(although that included a few bad passes). He also had enough room to score three try's against Salford and get Charnley some ball.
To say Sarginson is being crowded out is incorrect for me. There's times he has plenty of space in 2 on 2 or even 2 on 1 situations with his opposite centre/wing combo but he just plays with his head down and runs away from his winger. Even when he got nailed by Gardner last night I felt he could have done a lot better. A proper centre would have flicked that ball on at pace to his winger yet Sarg got hammered because his first instinct is to run the ball. Either way he was getting nailed but instead of a knock on he had a 50/50 shot at getting his winger in.
Ultimately I want to see signs he's learning but I don't and that's worrying.'"

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| Quote shaun_edwards_cheekbone="shaun_edwards_cheekbone":shock:'"
Did Smith kick the goal? My electric went on the blink.
Honest
Match saver maybe.
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