saints whingers must be on a par with sir kev,danny boy both leeds also brough of giants.when I think of the old refs(eric clay)for one they wouldn't tolerate such behaviour.

I think it is time for Shaun Wane to take a break from all this 'mind games' nonsense. He has had a lot of praise over the last year or so, and rightly so. But it seems to me he is in danger of believing his own press.

I love his passion for Wigan and I think he is a lot more interesting character than Madge ever was. But -

It's time to shut up and let his team do the talking. We will always get bad refs and bad decisions, it's a fact of life. We've benefitted from them in the past so take it on the chin now. Leave your talking behind closed doors.

Agreed. I've no objection to a few choice words but as I said earlier he's gone too far IMO. There are limits and he's just go past them.

FWIW I thought that Brown was probably right with his assessment of the ref's performance, but why did he bring it into the public domain? Both he and Wane have made themselves look like a pair of idiots now and it's about time they buttoned it.

I tend to agree with this.

My sentiments to ..... refocus on the defensive lapses that were apparent (Makinson's second was appalling defence) then we don't have to worry about ref decisions.

Forget the mind games nonsense .... leave that to Brown .... a tactic he employed at Huddersfield and is trying again at Saints