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I expect either Bowen or Green to go at the end of the season. Could we afford to lose both, I'm not sure. '"


Obviously the ideal situation is too keep both for next year and continue to phase them out and phase the young guns in, but the negotiations for that would be tricky to say the least. Phasing out Bowen would be the easier option, as he is retiring (plus the added bonus that he's the better player of the two). But if it came down to it and it was a choice between letting any of the youngsters go or letting both of these go, I'd say the decision would be easy. I'd gladly sacrifice next year just to make sure we can get long deals on these 3.

Hampshire-Williams-Smith-McIlorum-Powell is such an exciting potential spine. It's just a shame they don't make Loose Forwards in the O'Loughlin mold anymore.

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Scored a hat-trick tonight for the 19s in a 34-24 win away at leaders Leeds.'"


He probably got a bit lucky and only had to run 70 metres for one of his tries. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Father Ted "Hampshire at 20 in the 2015 season is too young to play 30+ games in SL especially at stand off. Maybe at fb, just maybe!
At 6 he would be targeted by opposition forwards and would end up doing 25 tackles a game minimum. Would he then have the energy to threaten teams?'"


Then when defending move him out of the way. It's not as if that tactic hasn't been used regularly over the years by teams including us.

Quote: Father Ted "IMO keep him at fb where he is an excellent replacement for Bowen. Bowen is being rested for games v lower end teams with Ryan coming in and playing well.
He is on contract to 2016 but that doesn't mean he can't have a salary upgrade with an extended deal.
What the club is doing now is spot on. By the time Bowen leaves end of 2015 Hampshire will have a lot of experience at fb and ready to take over for the 2016 season when he'll be 21.
He's an exceptional talent but don't rush it, don't over do or over work him.'"


I think Hampshire is less of a fullback and more of a 6 than Sam T and I think Sam was a 6! It does look as though he is pencilled in as a full back but I think this may prove to be a mistake.

As I have said elsewhere if you watch Bowen catch a difficult ball or a bomb it shows there are still special skills associated with being a full back despite the modern view all a full back does is join the attacking line as an extra half back. If Hampshire plays against a top side this year at 1 then if I were them I'd bomb him relentlessly. If playing at 6 he'd be targeted by forwards I'd expect him to be targeted by kicks at f/b if the side we are playing is good enough. Not many are. Bradford put one bomb up all night (which he dropped) but I doubt he would get as easy a ride at f/b v Leeds.

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It looks as though he was outstanding again last night.

Result from Stanningley ARLFC - 7:30pm kick off

Wigan Warriors U19's - 34

T - Hampshire 3, Doran, Marshall, Moore

G - Gregson 5/6

Leeds Rhinos U19's - 24

T - Handley 2, Minchella, Milton, England

G - Lilley 2/5

Match Report

Wigan Warriors U19's backed up their derby win over Saints with a fantastic victory at table toppers Leeds.

The Warriors gave themselves some work to do at the picturesque Stanningley ARLFC after a first half littered with penalties and errors saw them go in at half time 24-12 down with the Rhinos racking up five tries.

However a spirited fight back from Wigan and an outstanding performance from Stand Off Ryan Hampshire saw them nil their opponents in the second half and take a 24-34 win and two points back over the Pennines.

The Warriors had the luxury of choosing the same Halfback partnership in back to back games for the first time this season and it paid off early on as Stand Off Ryan Hampshire combined with Scrum Half Jamie Doran after just five minutes to burst through from 20 metres and get the first try of the night. Nick Gregson goaled, 0-6 the visitors led.

Just a couple of minutes later the Rhinos were level, try scorer Doran fumbled on his own 15 metre line after good Leeds pressure and Winger Ash Handley took advantage with a fantastic acrobatic effort diving in at the corner. Jordan Lilley added the two and the sides level at 6-6 with nine minutes gone.

Leeds looked to build on their try and had a man held up over the line however it was Wigan who scored next. Ryan Hampshire displayed some magical footwork near the line and waltzed in for his first of the night. A simple kick for Gregson made it 6-12.

A Warriors knock on from the restart though let the Rhinos have great field position and they duly obliged with Elliot Minchella crossing the whitewash. Another successful kick, 12-12 just before the 20 minute mark.

Just a couple of minutes later and the Rhinos were in again, Wigan giving up possession far too easily deep in their own half and Loose Forward George Milton scored from the resulting scrum. Lilley missed his first conversion of the evening, 16-12 Rhinos.

Leeds started to take control as Winger Ash Handley was first to a high ball and his try put the home side 8 points clear. Lilley failed to convert again, the Rhinos now leading 20-12 after 26 minutes.

Wigan continued to give away cheap penalties and their misery was compounded when a penalty against the Warriors for obstruction went from bad to worse as Jamie Doran was sent to the sin bin for voicing his opinion. Leeds had just enough time to take advantage of the extra man before half time as Brad England barged over, Lilley with his third consecutive wayward effort meant the sides went in 24-12 at half time.

Wigan had to start the second half well and did just that. Off the back of a couple of penalties, Ryan Hampshire was again able to show an excellent turn of pace to zip through and get his second of the night. Gregson added a simple kick and the Warriors were within a converted try of drawing level.

Leeds again gifted the Warriors another penalty before a knock on was collected by winger Liam Marshall who raced in from 20 metres and the visitors were within touching distance despite still being down to 12 men. Gregson missing with the kick, the Warriors now just two behind at 24-22.

The home side started to come back into it but Wigan's defence held firm despite a couple of back to back sets in their own half.

The boys in Cherry and White then took the lead as Jamie Doran looking to make amends for his sin binning put Rob Lever through who had Jake Moore in support to go in near to the sticks. Gregson did the honours to make it 24-28.

League leaders Leeds again looked to build pressure and had a try ruled out for a forward pass as the Warriors defended for their lives.

On the 65 minute mark came the try of the night and one fitting to win any match. Ryan Hampshire capped a Man of the Match performance flying through the defensive line and racing from one side of the pitch to the other over 60 metres to burn off all in site including a hapless Rhinos Full Back. Another Gregson conversion put Wigan ten points up and the spoils were secured.

The Warriors saw out proceedings with relative ease and inflicted just the second defeat of the season for the Rhinos.

The win propels Wigan from 10th to 5th in the ladder as they continue to gain momentum in 2014.

Team News

Wigan Warriors U19's - Gabriel Fell, David Thompson, Jack Higginson, Oliver Gildart, Liam Marshall, Ryan Hampshire, Jamie Doran, Ben Austin, Callum Wright, Kieron Sharrett, Nick Gregson, Macauley Davis, Robert Lever

Replacements - Luke Waterworth, Brad Lawrence, Jake Moore, Kyle Shelford

Leeds Rhinos U19's - Ashton Golding, Billy McDermott, Jordan Harper, Josh Walters, Ash Handley, Ben White, Jordan Lilley, Dan Grange, Robbiie Ward, Robbie Mulhern, Elliot Minchella, Brad England, George Milton

Replacements - Ben Frankland, Matty Stableford, Sam Hallas, Jamie Samme

Ref - T Grant


Read more at www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... jlQXlMf.99
It looks as though he was outstanding again last night.

Result from Stanningley ARLFC - 7:30pm kick off

Wigan Warriors U19's - 34

T - Hampshire 3, Doran, Marshall, Moore

G - Gregson 5/6

Leeds Rhinos U19's - 24

T - Handley 2, Minchella, Milton, England

G - Lilley 2/5

Match Report

Wigan Warriors U19's backed up their derby win over Saints with a fantastic victory at table toppers Leeds.

The Warriors gave themselves some work to do at the picturesque Stanningley ARLFC after a first half littered with penalties and errors saw them go in at half time 24-12 down with the Rhinos racking up five tries.

However a spirited fight back from Wigan and an outstanding performance from Stand Off Ryan Hampshire saw them nil their opponents in the second half and take a 24-34 win and two points back over the Pennines.

The Warriors had the luxury of choosing the same Halfback partnership in back to back games for the first time this season and it paid off early on as Stand Off Ryan Hampshire combined with Scrum Half Jamie Doran after just five minutes to burst through from 20 metres and get the first try of the night. Nick Gregson goaled, 0-6 the visitors led.

Just a couple of minutes later the Rhinos were level, try scorer Doran fumbled on his own 15 metre line after good Leeds pressure and Winger Ash Handley took advantage with a fantastic acrobatic effort diving in at the corner. Jordan Lilley added the two and the sides level at 6-6 with nine minutes gone.

Leeds looked to build on their try and had a man held up over the line however it was Wigan who scored next. Ryan Hampshire displayed some magical footwork near the line and waltzed in for his first of the night. A simple kick for Gregson made it 6-12.

A Warriors knock on from the restart though let the Rhinos have great field position and they duly obliged with Elliot Minchella crossing the whitewash. Another successful kick, 12-12 just before the 20 minute mark.

Just a couple of minutes later and the Rhinos were in again, Wigan giving up possession far too easily deep in their own half and Loose Forward George Milton scored from the resulting scrum. Lilley missed his first conversion of the evening, 16-12 Rhinos.

Leeds started to take control as Winger Ash Handley was first to a high ball and his try put the home side 8 points clear. Lilley failed to convert again, the Rhinos now leading 20-12 after 26 minutes.

Wigan continued to give away cheap penalties and their misery was compounded when a penalty against the Warriors for obstruction went from bad to worse as Jamie Doran was sent to the sin bin for voicing his opinion. Leeds had just enough time to take advantage of the extra man before half time as Brad England barged over, Lilley with his third consecutive wayward effort meant the sides went in 24-12 at half time.

Wigan had to start the second half well and did just that. Off the back of a couple of penalties, Ryan Hampshire was again able to show an excellent turn of pace to zip through and get his second of the night. Gregson added a simple kick and the Warriors were within a converted try of drawing level.

Leeds again gifted the Warriors another penalty before a knock on was collected by winger Liam Marshall who raced in from 20 metres and the visitors were within touching distance despite still being down to 12 men. Gregson missing with the kick, the Warriors now just two behind at 24-22.

The home side started to come back into it but Wigan's defence held firm despite a couple of back to back sets in their own half.

The boys in Cherry and White then took the lead as Jamie Doran looking to make amends for his sin binning put Rob Lever through who had Jake Moore in support to go in near to the sticks. Gregson did the honours to make it 24-28.

League leaders Leeds again looked to build pressure and had a try ruled out for a forward pass as the Warriors defended for their lives.

On the 65 minute mark came the try of the night and one fitting to win any match. Ryan Hampshire capped a Man of the Match performance flying through the defensive line and racing from one side of the pitch to the other over 60 metres to burn off all in site including a hapless Rhinos Full Back. Another Gregson conversion put Wigan ten points up and the spoils were secured.

The Warriors saw out proceedings with relative ease and inflicted just the second defeat of the season for the Rhinos.

The win propels Wigan from 10th to 5th in the ladder as they continue to gain momentum in 2014.

Team News

Wigan Warriors U19's - Gabriel Fell, David Thompson, Jack Higginson, Oliver Gildart, Liam Marshall, Ryan Hampshire, Jamie Doran, Ben Austin, Callum Wright, Kieron Sharrett, Nick Gregson, Macauley Davis, Robert Lever

Replacements - Luke Waterworth, Brad Lawrence, Jake Moore, Kyle Shelford

Leeds Rhinos U19's - Ashton Golding, Billy McDermott, Jordan Harper, Josh Walters, Ash Handley, Ben White, Jordan Lilley, Dan Grange, Robbiie Ward, Robbie Mulhern, Elliot Minchella, Brad England, George Milton

Replacements - Ben Frankland, Matty Stableford, Sam Hallas, Jamie Samme

Ref - T Grant


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Quote: Rogues Gallery "The Warriors gave themselves some work to do at the picturesque Stanningley ARLFC'"


Whoever wrote that report had obviously enjoyed the hospitality.

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