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Quote: Towns88 "The one he pinged from the touchline shows he's capable. Hell of a drop goal as well.'"


Really was a tremendous droppie, really haven't seen many as good under so much pressure

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You are ignoring how missed kicks can change the dynamics of the game. We scored two good tries v HKR but were only 8 points to the good for it. I think we looked pretty deflated as a team when Smith missed the second kick which was an easy kick. One attack off them and it was 8-6. It also gives the other side hope which I also think occurred v HKR and so whatever the stats from last season say I don't think you can conclude those 2-4 dropped points can be dismissed and we would still have won any of those games from last season.

Quote: Grimmy "I'd hate for us to bring in someone like Foster who will get those extra 2-4 points but easily lose us more than that through bombed tries and defensive foul-ups.'"


I thought when we brought in average players it wasn't a problem as once Wane and Bitcon got hold of them they would improve. That is the usual excuse if we sign average players icon_wink.gif

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matty smith is more than capable, just needs to learn composure you could tell he was going to miss the kicks he did as it looked like he was over thinking it.

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Quote: dubairl "matty smith is more than capable, just needs to learn composure you could tell he was going to miss the kicks he did as it looked like he was over thinking it.'"

I can tell you it didn't do anything to improve my humour watching Pat hoof over kicks from every bloody conceivable angle at the week end (to add to two smartly taken tries and a 70 yard drop out)!!!

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I can tell you it didn't do anything to improve my humour watching Pat hoof over kicks from every bloody conceivable angle at the week end (to add to two smartly taken tries and a 70 yard drop out)!!!'"


that drop out was something else its good to see that a 32 year old who spent majority in super league can still "cut it in the NRL". But yeah i would rather see him in a wigan shirt every weekend as well. super player who is a Wigan legend, good to see him spreading the joining jack over there as well.

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Quote: Father Ted "This will be the first time a lot of people on here will have known Wigan without a top class goalkicker. We just lost Pat who came in 2006, Farrell left end of 2005 and prior to him we had Frano from 1990.
That's 24 seasons with some of the best kickers this club's ever had.
Getting a top quality player who is equaly as good at goal kicking is far from easy as there are so few around.
Yes we want an 80% goal kicker of course we do. If it was as simple as that we'd have signed Foster from Bradford some time ago. Trouble is as a player he is no where near the calibre we have in the positions he plays. '"


Don't forget though that Frano himself felt his goal kicking was a way into the side because he would not get a game otherwise. He did of course become a very good No 6 in his own right but at first was stuck out on the wing while he learned the game.

So in a way Frano is a good example of including a player in the side just for his goal kicking who isn't that good a player to start with.

Goal kicking was important enough for Monie to do that despite reservations about signing him in the first place (he wanted Phil Blake instead) and it remains as important IMO.

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