We beat Leeds at home in Feb 2012.

Not winning at home when playing the big teams isn't necessarily the problem. The problem is having no current area where 'singers' are likely to gather. If there was a definite area which fans bought into i'm sure the atmosphere would improve. The club tried to designate an area but this doesn't seem to have worked which suggests we need something more organic and fan led.

The atmosphere has been poor for several seasons now, not just the last two games.

The reasons are that our unreserved, "atmosphere generating" stand is nothing more than a creche for the under 10s and is awful to watch your rugby in because of that, and our top heavy (age wise) fan base that prefer to have a nip of whiskey under their wigan-branded blankets than contribute to any atmosphere.

It's been poor for ages now. I don't really miss the teenage chavs who did sing but also caused bother and generally made the club look bad at any given opportunity though. Hopefully it'll improve but I'm not sure how

So we did. By floodlit I was referring more to 8pm games. That was a Saturday tea time, albeit in dark at time of year.

There is never an atmosphere at the DW unless we are playing St Helens

I would hasten a guess that the conversion rate from under-5 season ticket prices (free) to those of kids, students and young adults and eventually to full season ticket holders is very low due to the steep price increases at various stages. Some sort of stepped increase would be logical to stop the drain, once you stop being a season ticket holder it's easy to become a tv viewing big game only fan.

The fact of the matter is that there isn't enough groups of "lads" in there late teens, early 20s that go to watch Wigan anymore, its almost become far to family orientated in my opinion, most lads that age now go to watch football.

So what is the right balance, we seem to advertise ourselves as a family game?
Other clubs seem to be getting the balance right better than us.

I sit in the middle of the South Stand and its all kids and older people. People are more interested in moaning at you because they have to pick their flask up so you can walk past than they are generating any atmosphere. IMO it would be better to have had the family section in the East and the singing section in the South.

Mainly white one on the pitch IIRC.

Have any of the other clubs tried socially engineer their fans like we have?



My kids and I sit towards the edge of the south stand, (under where the drummers use to be) and I never minded the Anglo Saxon expletives and noise, it's part of life and pretty funny at times.
I agree that the the south stand should have been left as it was.
As for a family/quiet section, that's the west stand.