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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "The current system DOES lend itself to that sort of thing, because you can finish less than half way down the league table and still have a chance of being champions. I'm sorry but reducing the number of teams who qualify for the playoffs will definitely change the mentality of the weekly rounds. In the last few seasons Leeds have won the POs from 5th position in the league, and we rested a lot of our star players and lost the majority of our games from July-Sep to let a big lead in the table slip, eventually finishing 4th but still won the GF. If there's a genuine advantage for finishing higher in the table then tactics like this become obsolete. '"


Fair enough but you'd get exactly the same result by going to a top five system in a normal league structure. You don't need this idiotic split to reduce the number of teams involved in the playoffs and thus make the league more important.

The new system means it is almost certain to be a simple knock out between the top four and IMO that isn't a play off. It is much more of a cup competition and doesn't offer sufficient reward for winning the league or finishing higher. Look how the old top 5 system worked and see how it was biased toward the higher finishing teams. If you are going to decide the competition by a playoff after 30 league games you need to have something that offer more than a knock out game to win the thing.

I see McManus has said about the current system that itDifficult to comment on stuff that hasn't been announced yet. I agree that the SC stuff is one of the major points that needs sorting though. Isn't the 2nd tier SC going to be £900K? '"


According to Martin Sadler it has not been agreed and if no agreement is reached it will mean SL clubs keep £1.2m and the championship sides get £90K.

Apparently SL clubs voted 7-6 in favour of the new structure (Les Cat's abstained, God knows why). The dissenters were Hudds, Hull FC, Hull KR, Salford, Warrington and Wigan.

Interestingly both Betts and Cummins, coaches of clubs who voted for the proposals have come out against them with Cummins saying all this will do is get clubs back again to the dark days of buying players to ensure they don't drop down the pecking order.

Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I think it is the opposite. I was all for licensing at the beginning, as I thought it would make the lower teams get their act together. Two license periods down the line and the promise stadia of Wakefield and Castleford are nowhere to be seen, Bradford and Salford have nearly gone bust, Crusaders have gone and London are nothing short of a complete shambles.'"


It does not follow that licensing is to blame for that. The fact the RFL failed to spot problem clubs and awarded them a license anyway points squarely at the RFL's incompetence. Similar system work elsewhere.

Quote: WARRIORCRAIG " It's clear that something needs changing. The top flight is being reduced from 14 to 12, and then a further 4 could drop out if they don't perform on the field. Licensing didn't force the lower end SL clubs to buck their ideas up, but this might.'"


Why? As Cummins has said bucking their idea up may well result in spending on players they can't afford to avoid dropping down the pecking order. The idea this new system does away with all the old problems associated with P&R such as that is far fetched IMO.

Quote: WARRIORCRAIG " Meanwhile fans of the top teams get to watch their team play in more intense games against better opposition instead of seeing them put 50 or 60 on teams without breaking sweat.'"


It was voted 13-0 to reduce the SL to 12 teams. That and a top five play off would deliver everything you want.

By the way a big reason why this system failed in Switzerland was due to attendances falling and the focus seemingly making the relegation game more important than the championship deciders.

If you think about it you can see why because the middle 8 is an 8 team P&R competition! So much for doing away with the problems of P&R as well.

It was also felt too complicated by sponsors and fans so the only time it has every been tried, it failed.

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The vote for a 12 team league didn't have an opposing vote.
Why clubs like Wakey, London and Widnes voted for relegation is staggering. Especially Widnes. They voted for 2 down in 2005 then finished 2nd bottom and were relegated. To vote again for getting your club to be vulnerable for relegation is just daft!
If they survive then are in the bottom four in 2015 they will take a massive cash hit when they have three home games against Championship opposition rather than two games v SL clubs.
You do have to wonder what is going on at some of these clubs.

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I give up...They're making this up as they go along
rlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_14072-the-million-pound-match-to-decide-final-super-league-spot-from-2015.htmlrl
Is anyone in charge over there?

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Quote: CyberPieMan "I give up...They're making this up as they go along
rlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_14072-the-million-pound-match-to-decide-final-super-league-spot-from-2015.htmlrl
Is anyone in charge over there?'"


This is nothing new, it was in the proposal all along.

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Quote: andyh0064 "This is nothing new, it was in the proposal all along.'"

Must've missed it - lost the will to live after the first couple of paragraphs

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