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| Quote: NickyKiss "Good-
Lockers- Proved to everyone what we knew, that he's world class. He really is a stunning player nowadays. Works like a forward, hits like a train with the handling ability of a back.
Pettybourne- Looks a top signing. Big and a good engine and will fit in well with our style of play.
Flower- Same old with this guy, works hard and does all the little things well.
Decent-
Tomkins- played within himself I though. He was a creative force but not a massive individual threat. He defended really well and played in the mode of a 'proper' fullback rather then a running half who's been placed there.
Charnley- Solid in the main but I've seen him play better. He'll continue to improve.
Lloyd- Did well in patches for a poor Wales side.
McIlorum- Did ok but no more. He's a big game player and didn't play in either of our big games in the tournament. Pay Richards tweeted during the NZ game that it was tailor made for Micky Mac and he was right. I doubt he'll get the chance to prove his quality in a big game though.
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Richards- I'd still include him if we're including Tomkins and Mossop. He looked his age I thought and looked like this was a few games too far. A total legend of our club but I think the timings been right in terms of parting the ways.
Dudson- Didn't run his weight for Wales like he doesn't for us. He's got big improvements to make IMO.
Mossop- Only played about half an hour verses Australia but he was awful. He finished the season in career best form for us but went back in to his shell in that game at Cardiff. He always looks like he needs a kick up the backside.
After those players like Gelling and Faz didn't get enough chances to show what they could do and Hansen was injured.'"
Almost totally agree with that summary. Don't think Sam has been himself since first few months if season. The life changing experience he's going to encounter is bound to be playing on his mind, especially as he's going without family. |
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Good-
Lockers- Proved to everyone what we knew, that he's world class. He really is a stunning player nowadays. Works like a forward, hits like a train with the handling ability of a back.
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A back with butter fingers maybe 
Can't fault his defensive effort but he still gives away too many penalties. |
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| Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Spot on with your summary.
My only slight disagreement is with Lockers. He missed Australia again - not his fault of course. But he needs to have a massive game against them to silence the doubters from other clubs who think that we over rate him.'"
If he ever gets the chance, he will. He is one of those few players who when the standard increases, rises to the challenge. It's what really marks him down as a class player.
In our competition plenty look sh 1t hot at club level but can't hack it internationally. He is not one of those. |
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Can only comment on the England players...
I thought O'Loughlin was Wigan's best. He is one of the (few) SL players who ups his performances when facing the best opposition.
Tomkins was decent, but not the huge threat we've seen in attack before. He undoubtedly helped make the England backline the most fluid its been in years though. I really think he may be pushed into 6/7 at the Warriors.
Charnley - OK. The main thing with him, Watkins, Cudjoe and Hall was that they were not the defensive disasters many predicted. On attack they all struggled at times with the quality they were up against, and they were new combinations at the start. The weakest link for me was Cudjoe, who I'd replace with Reed.
Farrell, Mossop and McIlorum - sorry but not (yet) good enough IMO. Not alone here, but there is a massive gap between our top quality forwards and the rest. That's an area I'd be hoping to unearth a couple more players over the next year.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Can only comment on the England players...
I thought O'Loughlin was Wigan's best. He is one of the (few) SL players who ups his performances when facing the best opposition.
Tomkins was decent, but not the huge threat we've seen in attack before. He undoubtedly helped make the England backline the most fluid its been in years though. I really think he may be pushed into 6/7 at the Warriors.
Charnley - OK. The main thing with him, Watkins, Cudjoe and Hall was that they were not the defensive disasters many predicted. On attack they all struggled at times with the quality they were up against, and they were new combinations at the start. The weakest link for me was Cudjoe, who I'd replace with Reed.
Farrell, Mossop and McIlorum - sorry but not (yet) good enough IMO. Not alone here, but there is a massive gap between our top quality forwards and the rest. That's an area I'd be hoping to unearth a couple more players over the next year.'"
Agree with all of that. To be honest it's a bit daft that Mossop got the call up as he's not really done anything special for the last couple of seasons IMO. I'd have given Crabtree a spot |
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| Quote: Grimmy "Agree with all of that. To be honest it's a bit daft that Mossop got the call up as he's not really done anything special for the last couple of seasons IMO. I'd have given Crabtree a spot'"
I think that's a bit harsh on Mossop. After all he did step up in the playoffs, one of which McNamara will have taken note of, at Huddersfield.
However I think Crabtree was very unlucky. As it turned out he'd have done better than Burgess no.3 (Tom?). |
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