Quote: Jukesays "Dave
I'm not going to sit here and dissect words but nowhere did I say what went on at wigan had anything to do with what went on last week.
I didn't say that what happened at Wigan had any influence over what McNamara did last week.'"
I probably didn't word it very well but I was basically trying to say I didn't see any relevance in what you said in your last paragraph that I quoted about the rumours when he left Wigan or posters saying he was innocent back then to the Hock situation with England.
Quote: Jukesays "Your inferring that it seems to be the people who were glad to see the back of Hock for whatever reason as you put it are condemning him here.
We'll I'll reverse it, the same people who told us what a negative effect kicking out Hock at Wigan and that Wane wasn't up to the job in not so many words are the same people sticking up for him here and criticising McNamara.'"
I am not inferring that at all. I said I find it understandable why those who were glad to see the back of him at Wigan would agree with McNamara. What I am suggesting is had McNamara done the same thing to a different player they [imight[/i have taken a different view. That is all.
Quote: Jukesays "I'll say it again, "if" what I've been told is anywhere near the truth I'd have done exactly the same as McNamara, and I'm coming from the I don't rate McNamara camp so it's got nothing to do with being biased.
I'm a big Gaz Hock fan and didn't want what happened at Wigan to happen but it did. I stand by what I said back then, he brought that on himself and it was his actions that created the situation. Once that had gone too far for the management they decided to get rid and I saw Very few negatives from that decision and long term I believe we will benefit from it.
I'm not the same as Rogues in at I would have had him in the squad however I'm now beginning to think I would have been wrong.
This scenario was brought on again by himself, no-one else's actions made what he did acceptable. And as I have said if I did what he did from what I've been told I'd have been sacked as well.
McNamara needed Hock to toe the line for 6 weeks, Hock couldn't do it.'"
I don't think you can construct an argument to support his dismissal from the England squad based on rumours if at the same time you want to dismiss others opinions based on rumours about what went on when he left Wigan. That is double standards
. I also don't think anyone is suggesting others actions made what he did acceptable.
My opinion is that based on what I know which is he and several other players went drinking and he missed a warm down session and got the boot as a result. Based on that my views on McNamaras handling of it remain as I posted previously. If Hock had been playing up before this then McNamara should have nipped it in the bud. And as I also said, I don't think the Aussies would have kicked him out either.
