FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > So Wane did learn from last year.
19 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15215No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Aboveusonlypie "SW received some quite ridiculous stick last season. Yes the players may have been knackerred against Leeds last season but without Sam and MMc they still only lost by one point - in the last minute. Few people agreed with me last year that luck played a big part. With better luck we'd have won it. This year four things stand out for me

1. Our luck has changed. The Challenge Cup draw says it all really, beating Widnes, London and Hull. If we'd had that draw last year, we'd have won it then

2. A kicking game. Tommy and Finch were poor in that game against Leeds, as they were all season, in the kicking department. Matty Smith has been outstanding. A real big game player. in 2010 he was Saints best player in the GF; their loss.

3. SW played more players than any other team in Super League. The youngsters have had plenty of game time. No-one will be overawed next week even without Lockers.

4. He learnt that Super League doesn't reward coming first and did something about it. The week after we won the Cup playing a full reserve team for example meant all the players were fresh at Huddersfield in the first playoff

I'm absolutely made-up for him.

and fair play to those of you man enough to admit that you were wrong about him.'"


In retrospect, there were several extenuating factors last season with regard to our failure to win silverware. The serious and ill-timed injury to Tommy Leuluai was a big blow from which we didn't recover easily. We also had two key players in Finch and Lima who patently weren't interested once they'd decided they were going home.

That doesn't exonerate SW entirely, but as others have said - the play-off defeat was pretty damn close affair. Had we got the rub of the green in that game, it could have changed everything.

I was more concerned about SW this season when we suddenly lost all form mid-way through the campaign. There just didn't seem to be any arresting it. It was difficult not to feel despondent. The turn-around in the play-offs was quite amazing, and SW deserves nothing but massive credit.

Of course - when you go on a losing streak, it's inevitable the fans will get jumpy. But I totally agree that SW was subjected to some quite ridiculous criticism. The business about him making ill-judged comments to interviewers was bollox frankly - unimportant in the great sweep of things, and nothing more than an excuse to slag the guy off. The likes of Tony Smith and Nathan Brown have pretty poor records on the box, yet we don't hear their heads being called for in response. Other stories - about SW having lost the dressing room, for example - were simply lies.

Running the Wigan first team was SW's first major gig, so there were bound to be things that needed ironing out, and yet and at no stage under his command have we been anywhere other than near the top or getting close to finals. Okay, 'near' and 'getting close' aren't perhaps good enough for Wigan, but many other clubs would take it, and anyway, this year we've improved yet again.

If we win the Grand Final I can see SW's position at Wigan being secure for a very long time.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1979No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68548_1368547004.jpg
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try No hell below us, above us only pie"(John Ono Lennon born Wigan 1940):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68548.jpg



Quote: Cruncher "In retrospect, there were several extenuating factors last season with regard to our failure to win silverware. The serious and ill-timed injury to Tommy Leuluai was a big blow from which we didn't recover easily. We also had two key players in Finch and Lima who patently weren't interested once they'd decided they were going home.

That doesn't exonerate SW entirely, but as others have said - the play-off defeat was pretty damn close affair. Had we got the rub of the green in that game, it could have changed everything.

I was more concerned about SW this season when we suddenly lost all form mid-way through the campaign. There just didn't seem to be any arresting it. It was difficult not to feel despondent. The turn-around in the play-offs was quite amazing, and SW deserves nothing but massive credit.

Of course - when you go on a losing streak, it's inevitable the fans will get jumpy. But I totally agree that SW was subjected to some quite ridiculous criticism. The business about him making ill-judged comments to interviewers was bollox frankly - unimportant in the great sweep of things, and nothing more than an excuse to slag the guy off. The likes of Tony Smith and Nathan Brown have pretty poor records on the box, yet we don't hear their heads being called for in response. Other stories - about SW having lost the dressing room, for example - were simply lies.

Running the Wigan first team was SW's first major gig, so there were bound to be things that needed ironing out, and yet and at no stage under his command have we been anywhere other than near the top or getting close to finals. Okay, 'near' and 'getting close' aren't perhaps good enough for Wigan, but many other clubs would take it, and anyway, this year we've improved yet again.

If we win the Grand Final I can see SW's position at Wigan being secure for a very long time.'"


The most pleasing thing for me is that SW seems to have learnt a lot from his first season mistakes, which as you say was his first season in a Super League coaching role, which some of his critics failed to recognise/acknowledge/appreciate.

Flogging the players to win the LLS and picking Jack Murphy against Leeds when he had only appeared twice before were major errors.

This year he has used more players than any other coach so that if we need them players are better able to step in, and first teamers are fresher (eg MMc). And strangely given Leeds record from the last two years whilst we looked pretty fresh at the end of the game, Leeds players were out on their feet. I watched the game on Sky after I had got home from the ground and I couldn't believe the constant reference to Leeds players being knackerred. Yet Wigan played more games than Leeds all season. If Watkins &JJB were injured then play someone else, because SW would have done.

Agreed about his dealings with the media. I think he has made great efforts to improve. But his passion for the club always shines through. I think that is a great thing. My ONLY criticism of Madge was that he was about as interesting as watching a game of Union!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1250
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29146.gif
Keep goin wit yed down:29146.gif



Quote: Aboveusonlypie "The most pleasing thing for me is that SW seems to have learnt a lot from his first season mistakes, which as you say was his first season in a Super League coaching role, which some of his critics failed to recognise/acknowledge/appreciate.

Flogging the players to win the LLS and picking Jack Murphy against Leeds when he had only appeared twice before were major errors.

This year he has used more players than any other coach so that if we need them players are better able to step in, and first teamers are fresher (eg MMc). And strangely given Leeds record from the last two years whilst we looked pretty fresh at the end of the game, Leeds players were out on their feet. I watched the game on Sky after I had got home from the ground and I couldn't believe the constant reference to Leeds players being knackerred. Yet Wigan played more games than Leeds all season. If Watkins &JJB were injured then play someone else, because SW would have done.

Agreed about his dealings with the media. I think he has made great efforts to improve. But his passion for the club always shines through. I think that is a great thing. My ONLY criticism of Madge was that he was about as interesting as watching a game of Union!'"


I love that line. One of the best ever. icon_thumb.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Aboveusonlypie "The most pleasing thing for me is that SW seems to have learnt a lot from his first season mistakes, which as you say was his first season in a Super League coaching role, which some of his critics failed to recognise/acknowledge/appreciate.

Flogging the players to win the LLS and picking Jack Murphy against Leeds when he had only appeared twice before were major errors.

This year he has used more players than any other coach so that if we need them players are better able to step in, and first teamers are fresher (eg MMc). And strangely given Leeds record from the last two years whilst we looked pretty fresh at the end of the game, Leeds players were out on their feet. I watched the game on Sky after I had got home from the ground and I couldn't believe the constant reference to Leeds players being knackerred. Yet Wigan played more games than Leeds all season. If Watkins &JJB were injured then play someone else, because SW would have done.

Agreed about his dealings with the media. I think he has made great efforts to improve. But his passion for the club always shines through. I think that is a great thing. My ONLY criticism of Madge was that he was about as interesting as watching a game of Union!'"


Classic.... But his post match interviews were great!!!! Oh wait icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1112No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2015Feb 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32241_1282342799.jpg
Even before I hit the floor I thought I'd broken my jaw, but the cheekbone was so depressed I couldn't move it Shaun Edwards Leeds Fan on Mobile phone at Headingley said: "Alright mate it's only me, no I'm just ringing to say there's thousands of Wigan Fans here. Thousands of 'em it's swarming with em". "no fooking $hit sherlock,Barrett got his willy out and pi$$ed all over us. " Hull FC Forum [b:142xwx5t][size=150:142xwx5t]A WHELAN AND TICS FREE STADIUM PLEASE[/b:142xwx5t][/size:142xwx5t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32241.jpg



Quote: Wigan Peer "Classic.... But his post match interviews were great!!!! Oh wait
Aww look mods. I think the boys have gone away from the AUP. But we'll get them back on the paddock and come again next week.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: shaun_edwards_cheekbone "Aww look mods. I think the boys have gone away from the AUP. But we'll get them back on the paddock and come again next week.'"


icon_lol.gif

19 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
19 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.5322265625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Round 17 Warrington Away
batleyrhino
121
8m
TV Games - Not Hull
Dave K.
2100
15m
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
18m
Lewis Murphy
Khlav Kalash
34
21m
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
28m
Saints h
Itchy Arsena
89
36m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
38016
37m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60210
Recent
FC v hull kr
Yippee try y
63
Recent
A good signing for the Robins
Betsy Bulls
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Dave K.
2100
2m
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Jake the Peg
3240
2m
Watson toast
FIL
9
2m
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60210
2m
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
3m
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
3m
Salford - Away
Riderofthepa
133
3m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
bazdev
2477
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
TODAY
Sackings
SFW
2
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
TODAY
Watson toast
FIL
9
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
5
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Redscat
8
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
6
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
Luppylad
26
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
BigTime
12
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
batleyrhino
121
TODAY
Saints h
Itchy Arsena
89
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
TODAY
Arthur In
Tex Rerp
45
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
138
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
307
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
806
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1385
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1440
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2443
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1727
Big Win for England Women Over..
1583
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1735
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1828
Super League form rewarded as ..
2108
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2229
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2217
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1937
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2324
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M +13,101 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
 FT
Hover 
Gold Coast
24-16
Parramatta
10:35
Brisbane
v
St.George
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
York V
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
15:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
15:00
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
Catalans
v
Salford
 TOMORROW
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
v
LeedsW
       League One 2024-R15
14:00
Newcastle
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
14:00
Hudds W
v
BarrowW
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
15:00
Halifax
v
Featherstone
15:00
Sheffield
v
Swinton
15:00
Widnes
v
Dewsbury
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R15
15:00
Oldham
v
Crusaders
15:00
Workington
v
Rochdale
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
17:05
Manly
v
Newcastle
 Wed 17th Jul
     State of Origin 2023-R3
11:05
Queensland
v
New South Wales
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
15:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 13th Jul
NRL
LIVE
Gold Coast24-16Parramatta
Fri 12th Jul
NRL 19 Cronulla58-6Wests
SL 17 LondonB20-34Castleford
WSL2024 8 WiganW12-16St.HelensW
SL 17 Wigan16-12St.Helens
Thu 11th Jul
NRL 19 Dolphins36-28Souths
SL 17 Warrington30-18Leeds
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 16 443 182 261 28
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
St.Helens 17 441 186 255 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 17 280 455 -175 11
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 17 176 649 -473 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Round 17 Warrington Away
batleyrhino
121
8m
TV Games - Not Hull
Dave K.
2100
15m
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
18m
Lewis Murphy
Khlav Kalash
34
21m
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
28m
Saints h
Itchy Arsena
89
36m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
38016
37m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60210
Recent
FC v hull kr
Yippee try y
63
Recent
A good signing for the Robins
Betsy Bulls
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Dave K.
2100
2m
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Jake the Peg
3240
2m
Watson toast
FIL
9
2m
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
60210
2m
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
3m
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
3m
Salford - Away
Riderofthepa
133
3m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
bazdev
2477
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Fixture List
Smiffy27
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Extend League Lead with Derby Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Toulouse game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Ashton extends contract
chris2925
1
TODAY
Damel Diakhate
Eastern Wild
5
TODAY
Sackings
SFW
2
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
matt_wire
30
TODAY
Watson toast
FIL
9
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
doc999
5
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Redscat
8
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
6
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
Luppylad
26
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
BigTime
12
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
batleyrhino
121
TODAY
Saints h
Itchy Arsena
89
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
christopher
21
TODAY
Arthur In
Tex Rerp
45
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Warriors Extend League L..
138
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
307
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
806
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1385
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1440
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2443
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1727
Big Win for England Women Over..
1583
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1735
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1828
Super League form rewarded as ..
2108
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2229
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2217
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1937
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2324


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!