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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Because removing the salary cap would save the game, wouldn't it?
It's nothing to do with poor marketing, poor TV deals, under-performing clubs, stay-away fans, the comparative strength of the pound, our low national profile thanks to Sky TV, the missing international dimension, etc.
FWIW, I don't like the salary cap either, but it isn't the only problem we've got, or the worst one - and you know that perfectly well.'"
It directly impacts on the ability of clubs to retain the best players.
I would say that is a pretty significant effect of it.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"It directly impacts on the ability of clubs to retain the best players.
I would say that is a pretty significant effect of it.'"
Definitely. If it wasn't for the SC we may still have Joel Tomkins as one example. We may of been able to pay Sam Tomkins enough to keep him in SL. Even players such as Ryan Hoffman etc. Its amazing what a wage increase can do. But of course, like Mr Lenegan said, why would I want to pay my players more money?
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"It directly impacts on the ability of clubs to retain the best players.
I would say that is a pretty significant effect of it.'"
And last time we retained all the best players, we had to sell our ground.
Sam is reportedly on £400k pa over there, the game in this country can't sustain wage levels like that. If we offered Sam the same wage, we'd have to offer pro-rata comparable sums to the rest of the squad.
It's not the SC that's the problem, it's the income for the clubs and the game as a whole that simply isn't there.
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| Quote The_Enforcer="The_Enforcer"Definitely. If it wasn't for the SC we may still have Joel Tomkins as one example. We may of been able to pay Sam Tomkins enough to keep him in SL. ?'"
And likewise, we may not.
How many 'mays' and 'ifs' are you guys going to offer as evidence?
Much as I've lobbied for the cap to be moderated in order to reward clubs who promote youth, abolishing it won't save the British game overall - because it's already bloody skint.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"And last time we retained all the best players, we had to sell our ground.
Sam is reportedly on £400k pa over there, the game in this country can't sustain wage levels like that. If we offered Sam the same wage, we'd have to offer pro-rata comparable sums to the rest of the squad.
It's not the SC that's the problem, it's the income for the clubs and the game as a whole that simply isn't there.'"
Geoff, go and find a wall, and bang your head against it... Some on here just have there heads up their own ar$e$, like the sound of their our keyboards, and cannot see the wood for the trees....
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| Cheapest ticket £18 south stand, programs are what £3? Pints £3.20, Pies £10k.....and you want to increase the CAP? Sadly this time round, Wigan don't have a ground to sell
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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"Cheapest ticket £18 south stand, programs are what £3? Pints £3.20, Pies £10k.....and you want to increase the CAP? Sadly this time round, Wigan don't have a ground to sell'"
So we'll sell all our best players instead !
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"So we'll sell all our best players instead !'"
Nice soundbite, but it doesn't really mean anything.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"So we'll sell all our best players instead !'"
We only have Charnley left that would really attract big money because we've sold or lost all the rest!!
Maybe Hansen to Salford? Im sure the Doctor might give us a decent transfer fee for him. Maybe an offer that we cant refuse? Who knows he may even try and buy our new marquee signing out of his contract as well if Mr Lenegan asks nicely?
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| IMO it's a bit narrow minded to think Sam went for cash alone.
He is one of the most talented players in SL, and like anyone with talent (no matter what their chosen profession) they will try and test/challenge themselves against the best. Unfortunately the Southern Hemisphere is the best place to play rugby.
While RL may be strapped for cash, so is everybody else. IMO getting rid of the salary cap will concentrate all of the best players into 4/5 teams, everybody else will be there to make up the numbers. Look at Scottish football it's a joke as a competition.
We need to get a better profile and more cash into the game. Thats down to the RFL and business men in the sport.
I'm a recent convert from union and RL is a far better game to watch, the crowds are more interesting, its a fun night with away games being reachable after work on a Friday and its great value for money.
Don't underestimate what a good product RL is and don't overestimate the impact of Sam leaving. We might get some other moves added to our attacking plan next year.
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| Quote The_Enforcer="The_Enforcer"
Maybe Hansen to Salford? Im sure the Doctor might give us a decent transfer fee for him. Maybe an offer that we cant refuse? Who knows he may even try and buy our new marquee signing out of his contract as well if Mr Lenegan asks nicely?'"
Never a truer word spoken in jest? I actually agree with this move HH can be bettered with a realistic replacement as he isnt a top 5 player. Maybe you have some other radical ideas?
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