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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"I see Green seems to be the one getting flak at the moment but he seems to be the only one with the rugby brain to react against the rush defence out wide that everyone now seems to be doing to stop "our play".'"
React like when he threw it to Jones-Bishop?
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| Quote sybutwhy?="sybutwhy?"React like when he threw it to Jones-Bishop?'"
And react like:
- When he made the break for Pat's try
- When Thornley was put through and we should have scored
- When he put the kick in for Pat
Yes react like the three times we actually broke their line last night.
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| Three factors.
1. SOL being out. He formed the link to either getting Sam or the winger into space or playing a short ball. Without him we are not playing the same structure we were doing at the start of the season. We just don't have a like for like replacement.
2. Off the ball movement. Start of the season we had bodies in motion on almost every play. 2 or 3 options for the defender to have to pick. Recently we have been static and easy to spot with almost zero off the ball movement.
3. Opposition defence. Made easier by point 2. The defence on the decent fit well drilled teams are moving very quickly out wide, shutting off any link to Sam or the winger. This is made easier to do be the loss of SoL and our recent lack of movement.
If we can't replace Sol then we have to look at changing our attacking plays, as they are stopping at the point where he would have received the ball.
IMO this cries out for a half back who takes on the line, backed up in theide by Sam, together with the occasional kick behind the on rushing fringe defence.
That will make it harder for the defenders to rush on the fringe as they will be in two minds.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"And react like:
- When he made the break for Pat's try
- When Thornley was put through and we should have scored
- When he put the kick in for Pat
Yes react like the three times we actually broke their line last night.'"
The kick was clever. The two breaks were nothing special. He didn't carve them out of a tough situation or fool Leeds in any way. The opportunities presented themselves and fair enough he took them but these aren't any indicators that Green is playing well enough for long enough in a game because he just isn't.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"The kick was clever. The two breaks were nothing special. He didn't carve them out of a tough situation or fool Leeds in any way. The opportunities presented themselves and fair enough he took them but these aren't any indicators that Green is playing well enough for long enough in a game because he just isn't.'"
Considering he was the only one who seemed to creative anything I'd suggest those with a Green agenda look elsewhere for a new scapegoat after last night. While there are plenty of attacking issues to be addressed dropping Green loses the only one in the team at the moment with the rugby brain to break down a top 4 defence.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"And react like:
- When he made the break for Pat's try
- When Thornley was put through and we should have scored
- When he put the kick in for Pat
Yes react like the three times we actually broke their line last night.'"
No point praising someone for a play that gets you one try and costs you another. The same way his 40/20 was cancelled out by three pathetic kicks straight into Hardaker.
You really think he's up to scratch?
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| Quote sybutwhy?="sybutwhy?"No point praising someone for a play that gets you one try and costs you another. The same way his 40/20 was cancelled out by three pathetic kicks straight into Hardaker.
You really think he's up to scratch?'"
Likewise no point bagging someone if you're not prepared to acknowledge making up for the a mistake.
As I've just said he was the only one capable of creating something last night. Without Locky our attacking structures fall apart, that's the main problem that needs addressing.
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Considering he was the only one who seemed to creative anything I'd suggest those with a Green agenda look elsewhere for a new scapegoat after last night. While there are plenty of attacking issues to be addressed dropping Green loses the only one in the team at the moment with the rugby brain to break down a top 4 defence.'"
lmao
So criticising a below average player is now having an "agenda" against him?
It was a questionable signing to say the least and sadly, a year later I have been proven correct.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"lmao
So criticising a below average player is now having an "agenda" against him?
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No. For example, saying that the two best pieces of play last night only happened simply because the opportunities presented themselves (that could be said about any piece of creativity - it takes someone to actually take advantage of it) and therefore didn't warrant praise might be argued to have been agenda driven.
Just like pointing out criticising a below average player is ok without actually taking account of their performance might also be argued to be agenda driven.
HTH.
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| Tonight Leeds played on the advantage line, and perhaps, should have been pulled up more than they were for forward passes, but we were playing from a couple of yards back making defence relatively easy. We did not give ourselves the chance.
We looked plodding, look at the pass for the interception, it was as though the decision to pass had been made several tackles earlier. Only Andy Powell looked to be capable of thinking on his feet and no one was looking for it.
Lastly we suffered from not having a back on the bench. Sam Powell could have covered both hooker and in the backs. Even Gelling would offer a bit more.
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| IMO Last night Leeds came onto the ball from depth at pace, forced themselves across the tackle line creating better go forward.
Our attack was flat, had no pace and we were stopped on the tackle line. It wasn't only predictable ( other than the three obvious occasions) it was slow, like preseason warm up.
Lastweek against Hull our attack was exciting and fun to watch
Never mind, It's been a good season, we aren't out of it yes and Sams leaving so we may try some other attacking plays next year.
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