I'm not worried about playoffs either, they'll be short and sweet.

When are the Under 19s playing this week?

I think the Challenge Cup win has papered over the cracks somewhat. We had a ridiculously easy run to the final where we didn't play anyone from the top 8 and then Hull didn't show up at Wembley. It wasnt like everything came together in the final and that we'd clearly been saving ourselves for the big game. There is no master plan or anything like that, we are bang out of form and if anything appear to be getting worse.

I would hope Wane is more concerned with our form than you seem to be. I hoped that the Wembley win was the start of something but Warriorcraigs post sums it up for me.

I would imagine he is yes. But he'll also know that we haven't become a bad side overnight as the saying goes. The side that were 5 points clear earlier in the season is still there and can still beat anyone.

If we play as bad next Thursday as we have been then I'll be surprised.

But our performance on Thursday mirrored the entire summer in terms of league matches. This is no overnight occurrence but a continual decline that shows no signs of abating. We will go to Hudds as clear underdogs and rightly so. They are getting better and we are getting worse according to the results. I know there is mitigation to some extent with players missing and backs getting injured during the game but how anyone can contemplate next week with any confidence is beyond me.

i felt relly sorry for the departing players last night.

Pat played well on the whole and he certainly is one of our Men of Steel and always will be in my mind. Mossop put a good stint in as did Tuson who looked really fired up. Hansen was shattered after 15 minutes but played on till about 35 before being subbed due to the injury and then played the large part of the second half if i am correct. the players looked out on their feet for most of the match, run ragged by a solid Leeds who did the basics right and sussed our game plan from the off.

It was definitely a game of two halves, i remember at half time saying what a good game this is for sky for the neutrals etc and was really optimistic for the 2nd half - the second half couldn't have been any worse. i think i counted around fifty tackles where not one player went for the legs. it was almost as though they were trying to puff their chests and try and win a wrestle rather than apply the basic rugby rules. the ref and blindsmen didn't help much but they are not to blame.

i was rather disappointed last night after that second half show. not good enough at all, especially in such a high profile game regardless of its benefits to league position or not. if they expect the fans to turn up in their numbers whether the game is a nothing game or not, then i expect a better show whether the players are fatigued or not or whether there is a trick up their sleeves or ulterior motives or not regarding the playoffs.

no wonder they put on the half price ticket offer for season ticket holders as they knew they wouldn't get half a crowd to that "nothing" game otherwise.

for me, no game is a nothing game as pride is always at stake and paying fans deserve to get what they pay for - in terms of effort at least. the end!