It would be worth a look against Leecs to see how they go !

He's always had a good kicking game as far as I can remember. He once kicked two 40/20's in an England academy game against Australia and has generally kicked well when playing for the academy side.

I think his lack of pace will always be an issue as a halfback, although if he can improve his reading of the game he can make up for that defensively - while he wouldn't be the only sluggish halfback in Super League. There are quite a few halves who lack pace but can make up for it with speed of thought. He's got the look of one of those players that might switch between the halves and hooker and be comfortable in both roles.

I can't disagree with that at all, he's young enough to perfect that role. I would have him working with a sprint trainer though (something I don't think the club does enough of) to improve that first couple of yards off the mark.

Rogues where do you think George Williams fits into this debate?, he seems to be a well built lad and is he another one who will drift between halfback and hooker?.

He seems to be held in high regard at Wigan.

There is a common trend in all this, IMO it's not the players who are at fault but the structure. It's like banging your head against the wall watching Wigan and going over the same point over and over.

Look at our attack, and more importantly look at the oppositions defense when we attack, they arch up on the edges with their SR/centre cutting off our movement to 'out the back door to Sam.

Other teams do this, primarily in Oz but they set up the attack from different positions on the pitch. We set up the move from a central position, allowing for depth and movement, yes when effective it provides many options but when it's your only spine in attack it becomes predictable and easy to read.

So how do the halves fit into this? Bascially it's so structured, you learn the structures and play them out, the better HB at Wigan are the ones who can play the struture best. It must be so frustrating as a 6/7 playing for Wigan, not allowed to move out wide, double up on the left or the right or be creative.

Years gone by the likes of Edwards, Grey, Botica would pop up anywhere on the pitch, they would be allowed to create, spot issues with the oppositions def and exploit it accordingly.

Watch Benji play at Tigers or Thurston at Cowboys/Queensland/Oz, allowed to run the team, link in the line when they want and be creative.

Are halves are hitting their potential, not because they're not good enough, it's because they're not allowed to play.

This is main issue with Wigan and why I fear we'll always come unstuck against Leeds and Wire.

Sorry NOT hitting their potential