Loving the optimism here , just not feeling it if I'm honest

Last nights game was awfull , we looked lethargic , dis jointed , I'd go as far to say some didn't look interested

Just hope I'm proved wrong

An acid test to be sure.....

I admire the optimism but I am with you we have been dross for weeks and can't see how this will turn around.

Let's hope we are both wrong.

I hope we thump Hull but I think it will be the latter a scrappy win or loss and on current form it will be a loss, I just can't see how where going to just turn the form tap on, really hope I'm wrong

Ever since Warrington away we have become worse and worse. Excluding 2 challenge cup games against lower league opposition we haven't really done anything to impress. I'd like to think it's tactical but it seems more like confidence has just been shot to pieces.

I think everyone is over analysing the whole situation.

If wigan win the CC, or do well in the playoffs it will be because they've pulled themselves together and turned up on the day, not because of any agenda to play poorer and certainly not losing games.

Last season for example, leeds went into the playoffs after a shellacking at wembley and at hudds (who crashed out in the 1st round) the week before the playoffs. Everything pointed to season petering out. Sometimes it's just how the team turns up when it matters, and logic and what's happened before goes out the window.

Now I [iknow[/i wigan are going to turn up and play very well at wembley next week. But hull have been in excellent form this past month and are defensively solid, so it should be a very close game, could easily go either way. But if wigan lose it doesn't mean they won't do well in the playoffs.