Just the annual Shaun Wane's Wigan end of season collapse. World Beaters in May. Bag o' e come the business end. That said we'll probably scraup a win next week which will mask our inadequacies against the big boys. A win next week will give Lenegan just enough slack to continue his policy of asset stripping Wigan's golden generation for intangible gains such as 'youth development'. I don't want a successful under 15's. I want a decade at the top like Leeds have had under a regime with balls to hold onto a winning squad.

This season is following exactly the same pattern as last year. We keep waiting for the form to turn round but it didn't last year and is showing no signs of it this year either.

I admire your cynicism. It's a brave man who will condemn a win next week as one that would "mask our inadequacies".

Even braver to suggest that will allow IL to pursue an agenda.

It was just as long a trip for us. Yet we beat Catalan comfortably by a 20 point margin at their place a couple of weeks ago.

We've been very poor since the Magic weekend.
I certainly think that because of the young age of the team, we are suffering from a level of fatigue that is not being affected on older players.
The players have shown us what they are capable of earlier in the season, I think that once this group mature they will be a force to be reckoned with for many years to come.
Injuries have also played a part in the dip in form, the replacements coming in are even younger and not quite ready for the first grade: they have shown glimpses of their quality and will improve with time.
Rather than doom and gloom, I am really looking forward to future seasons as I think we have a promising bunch of talented young players that will serve the club well.

How did you do for your other long trip ... bottom of the table London Broncos ?

Didn't Wire get banged by 60 against London the week before the Cup Final last year? Don't worry.

last year was down to Wane flogging the players to death trying to win every single game.

this year is somewhat different.
We were winning at will early season, then dipped in form. Plenty thought it was injuries combined with Wanes policy of resting players.
We had a massive upturn in form to hammer the Broncos in the semi-final, after smashing Widnes out of sight when plenty predicted a close game based on our form, then it was back to playing rubbish.

I have no doubt whatsoever that we will win at Wembley, the question is why ?

I wish i knew the answer.
But i am torn between Wanes brilliant tactics to get us a favourable final league position to give us an easier route to old trafford, with fresh players , and the theory that Wanes lost the plot and the changing rooms and the players are picking and choosing when to turn up.

This bad form just by coincidence has happened at the same time as the news sam was leaving and rumours about wane going to NZ too.

That is just a coincidence........ in the last 10 games, won 5 lost 5, in the league and cup. In the last 8 league games won 3 lost 5

There's no profit in defeat.
An unemployed Jamaican chiropodist.

I was sat having a think about why our form keeps falling off a cliff at the back end of every season since 2011 and I've come to the conclusion that it's because of the constant departures that are either rumoured or confirmed. I think they affect the guys who are staying as much as the ones leaving. It must be as frustrating for the players staying as it is for the fans to keep seeing the team ripped up with no signs from Ian Lenagan that he can, or even wants to stop it happening.

In 2011 we lost lads like Hoffman, Joel, Deacon and Coley. We then lost guys like Leuluai, Carmont, Finch, Lima and Fielden last year and will lose Richards, Mossop, Tuson and obviously Tomkins this year. You can even look in to the future and see the departures of guys like Charnley and Hansen coming a mile off.

It's so scary seeing all those names written down. The quality and cap space that has gone out of the door in comparison to what has come in is just doesn't stack up IMO.