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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't know how long for.
Source was reasonable, so I'd say 50:50, which is much better than the 20:80 of a day ago.

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Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: BogBrushHead "Depression is something that has to be dealt with throughout society - 34% doesn't surprise me as I'd say around 1/3 staff I've dealt with as a departmental manager in engineering over the past 2 decades have definite signs of depression - and having been made redundant myself 4 times in the last 4 years due to contracts being cancelled early by bean counters at utility co's/councils, it's amazingly easy for anyone to drop into a downward spiral when bills keep coming in.

As for the marketing - I know of one owner who bemoaned in public the fact that he (and others he talked to) could bring in a decent (£3m-£5m) sponsor tomorrow, but if he brings them to his club, he's not allowed to spend the money on players/salaries, and if he hands that sponsor to the RFL, they'll only waste the money propping up clubs that basically find it easier to cry poverty than put their own house in order ........'"


Non of what you say, on both issues, comes as any surprise.....

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The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.:



Quote: Wigan Peer "Reading some of the posts on this board won't help lift anybodies spirits....'"


Not being funny but there were those of us who could see this happening a mile off.

DeanoG and I posted years ago that the effect of the CC (effectively a year on year pay CUT) coupled with the richer pickings offered elsewhere (contrary to the delusions of RL chairman, the sport does not exist in a bubble) would mean at the very least a "player drain". I remember the posts "Don't worry there will be someone else on the production line", "Don't be daft, not all people are driven by money", "it's only because Wigan are not winning anything" etc etc

I only wish I could feel smug about it.


Now those same people (presumably now accepting they were wrong but obviously not admiting it) lash out at other sports like little children who have been proven wrong. "RU wants to kill the game" LOL

Why on earth would RU want to kill off it's feeder sport? Do you really think it sees RL as a threat thesedays? Rather than kill the chicken, it would much rather keep it alive and eat the best eggs every now and again.

I don't pretend to know all the answers, but I do know one thing. Wigan RL have a fantastic brand, an amazing history and a very loyal and widespread fan base. However, we do not have a god-given right to be at the top of the sport. I remember when years of under investment and average signings led to the fan base drifting away and the club being relegated.

What turned this around? The "gang of 4" and their ambitious plans to sign marquee players, to attract the crowds and put Wigan back on top, i.e. the exact opposite of what seems to be happening at the moment.

The rest, as they say, is history.

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Brett, if you look back you will find that i agreed with many of your posts when you were getting criticism with regard to your statements about the CC from others. Not all, but many.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Doesn't look as if anyone has posted this but apologies if so.

From Twitter yesterday@RugbyLeagueNews

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Quote: ksm1701 "Doesn't look as if anyone has posted this but apologies if so.

From Twitter yesterday

Not posted here, but i had seen it...

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