Do fans not find it odd the both Wane (pre-season) and IL (season) have been virtually pushing Sam out the door and alerting anybody / everybody that Sam is available. Sam has been the only one following his agreement and denying any transfer.

Do fans not find it odd that Mrs Wane would accompany Mrs Tomkins Snr to NZ to check out living accommodation?

The deal to the best of my knowledge went through some time ago. Wigan attempted to gag the NZ Warriors until after the CC Final when I presume we will have a stage managed announcement with some positive news to limit adverse reaction to the VERY bad news.

Does anybody seriously still believe Sam is not leaving Wigan at the end of this season? A second Tomkins leaving with Sam has been mentioned this week. It may be Logan or it may be Joel.

I must have been out of the country when this happened.

Not according to the numerous times when you posted since pre season and throughout this season. Get me the details of your six month holiday. Must have been a fantastic offer

Use the power of google to get yourself up to speed Andrew.

Indeed I was only away for two weeks and I bet I'm one of many who has no idea what you're talking about.

It's fair to say that this board is far more challenging than other Wigan sites when people make things up to suit whatever their agenda is this week.

Was going o put the clapping emoticon but was worried you may think I was accusing you of being a "Happy clapper"!

Oh dear

Every forum is similar. None are better or worse than others. Rlfans was, sometimes still is derailed by trolling primarily from away supporters baiting other club supporters. The staff here (not you Andrew) have done a great deal to clean that aspect up.

I visit a forum to debate / read intelligent informed opinions. So the likes of Jon H, Dave O Et Al bring me to a site.

My reputation is based on the exact opposite of your statement and if you want to pretend you never read statements accessible to one and all in the media and then make purile insinuations about whether they exist and/or the motives behind comments then all you are achieving is making yourself look rather silly.

Sometimes fans seem oblivious to the truth and prefer not to face the truth. Many people are like that across society regarding far more important issues than sport. Ignorance is bliss.

Anything I say anywhere is incredibly well sourced and rarely wrong (nobody is perfect), never made up. You are running a thread today re Preccy retiring that I have stated several weeks ago BUT I daresay you knew that already.

And so it begins.

Desperately trying to get this back and on topic I'm sure those who makes statements like



will be able to back it up with evidence?

If he goes early and the club do not announce this happened because he broke his contract forbidding him to speak to other clubs then the only reasonable conclusions are either that the club instigated it or it didn't simply knock back any bids that came in.

Whether that equates to "and alerting anybody / everybody that Sam is available" is a pretty moot point IMO. It would be very annoying if the club did instigate it but only marginally less so than if they sold him due to receiving a bid.

It's not a "moot point", it doesn't equate to it at all.

Until such time as we know something official, people are making things up and trying to push them as facts.

This board is going to explode when the announcement is made

i hope I'm on holiday when it does happen